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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by cidjen » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:12 am

NinjaDefenestrator wrote:
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Those are bigger issues, not loose ends that can be wrapped up to end a chapter. Megatokyo will be around for years to come, to deal with questions like the ones you’ve brought up.
True.
I don’t see Piro leaving Japan anytime soon, anyway. Especially not if he does well at Lockart.
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or gets a young family with glamorous actress mother with a high-profile job to provide for, hehe...
Although if he left for the States, it probably would not surprise the part of the fanbase who somehow don't like him, it'll be a 'see I told you that guy was b4d, see?' moment for them :)
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by cidjen » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:24 am

Gerakis wrote:
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I've been reading this comic since forever, and this is certainly a pivotal milestone IMHO! I'm glad Piro made this choice. ☺ I personally never considered Miho a viable option, and not just because she messed with him in a video game, but because of her age. Isn't she still a high school student? I can't remember how old Piro is, but if he can afford to fly to Japan and stay there, he's gotta be old enough to know better than to mess around with high school kids.
(apologies for a double post)

There is a theory (well I had it) that she may be still a minor in the papers, i.e. she never lives long enough to advance past her (re)birthday, hence she has to go to school / formal education, even though her soul and experience is too old for it.

(@Paarfi actually told me to not go that route ;) so I won't. and I discourage you too :) )

(So as an explanation for why did Miho ditch Piro this harsh, I 'adopted' a slightly milder one - she realized he'd not survive the contact with the horde 2 years ago, so she did that to protect him... she may be an old soul but still impulsive young brain, so she did that too harsh, and burned herself in the process.)
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by w4llyb34r » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:55 am

Yl33 D4 N00b wrote:
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Surprised she's looking at his face when she talks to him... ;) Money sez all he does is wash her hair.... :roll:
Are you sure she's looking at his face? she is kneeling, so her line of sight is different... :flushed:

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by paarfi » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:11 am

cidjen wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:24 am
Gerakis wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:35 pm
I personally never considered Miho a viable option [...]. Isn't she still a high school student?
(@Paarfi actually told me to not go that route ;) so I won't. and I discourage you too :) )
I'm just asking that we don't start the whole "age of consent in Japan" discussion again. It never ends well, and usually turns creepy really quickly. Miho's Story does demand that she be high school aged, and Miho knows that bad things happen when she tries to buck the Story. But like FujiiYakumo and SpaceCobraJoe pointed out though, the real Miho is maybe 150yrs old per the Miho Origin Story comics a while back.
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by darrin » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:49 am

Rapierman wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:45 pm
Yanno, this would probably be the appropriate point to end the chapter...
Have been thinking about this for a day or so now, and I am going to politely disagree. I do think it's likely we've seen all we are going to see (in all senses of that word :oops:) of Piro and Kimiko for the current chapter.

But between Miho & Ninjagrrl & Yaku (& Junpei? other Junpei family?); and Ping & Junko & "Mysterious Older Gentleman-san"; and Yuki & Ririka & Yutaka; there is still at lot left to be done before the end of the day. (Plus some possible Erika and Largo randomness? Hard to imagine Largo saying "Well, this has been fun but a bit dangerous in my condition, I really should be heading back to my hospital room for further observation" :D)
...but what do I know? I'm just a reader.
Yeah same here of course. :D

EDIT:
And Meimi & Cha-chan & mostly naked lizard girl, I forgot about them sorry. :( My gut feeling at this point would be that if they do show up again in this chapter, it would mostly be in the random hijinks category like Erika + Largo above; Fred no doubt has larger plot plans in mind for them but their appearance so far seems to be still in the tongue-in-cheek stage...
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by cidjen » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:07 pm

paarfi wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:11 am
cidjen wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:24 am
Gerakis wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:35 pm
I personally never considered Miho a viable option [...]. Isn't she still a high school student?
(@Paarfi actually told me to not go that route ;) so I won't. and I discourage you too :) )
I'm just asking that we don't start the whole "age of consent in Japan" discussion again. It never ends well, and usually turns creepy really quickly.
Really creepy would be if anyone wanted to really go into the details of that which I (speaking for myself) don't. The 'too inexperienced to face the horde' explanation really works with the story better, instead of 'gaijin apprehended for hooking up with school girls' kind of (cynically) bad ending.
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(Though remember in ch0, Piro was sort of afraid of his sketchbook surfacing into unauthorized hands and same did Yuki decide to NOT give it to her father; nuff said, I promised, I won't raise that again :) )
Miho's Story does demand that she be high school aged, and Miho knows that bad things happen when she tries to buck the Story. But like FujiiYakumo and SpaceCobraJoe pointed out though, the real Miho is maybe 150yrs old per the Miho Origin Story comics a while back.
I have a theory round that too ;)
If Miho's birthday date changes every time she dies, she is in 'authorities' view always a minor, regardless how 'old' she really is :)

(edit I actually looked it up, the brand/distillery shown in [698] is about 195 years old ;) )
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by GouryG » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:09 pm

Ok, I can see Piro first helping her get the toner out of her hair. By the time they are done they are both freezing and they hold each other close to try to warm up and then switch on the hot water. They then proceeded to help each other get cleaned up and the steam conviently obscures our view of any naughty bits. After they come out we have conviently placed objects blocking our view of any non PG rated body parts like in Austin Powers.
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by iffy » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:37 pm

The look on Kimiko's face in panels 3 and 5 seems somewhat reminiscent of the emotions displayed around 946 and 949.

So, perhaps why Seraphim mentioned Asmodeus is to gloat in the whole angel/devil conscience thing sort of way. Not that he ever seemed to do so much as try and generically corrupt Piro, not to push him to anyone specifically. Although if they are just figuratively consciences in that sense, who knows what we don't get to see or hear about what he's been trying to do. Or maybe it's all mostly like pretty much in 300 depending on circumstances. Although that's a time and situation so unlike now, isn't it.

Even more so, this now situation is likewise unlike that last shower when nothing even began to happen. There wasn't an otherworldly demonstration going on, they didn't get here from gaps, or spend all their time cross-talking, disagreeing, fighting, complaining at each other, being hostile or confrontational, having his conscience worry about the situation and become hers too apparently, and nobody yoinked anyone else along accidentally or for later story continuation purposes. Here they both walked in knowingly (well both at the behest of another helping them, rather than Kimiko guiding it all) and then went back to being themselves, instead of sparring about everything including what she is. And here in 1513 we fade out rather than moving on to finding spies and a rescuer for said spies and a phase shift to elsewhere.

Ah, yes. The eternal question. How strictly speaking the PS2 Accessory may have rolled off the assembly line a few days before 106 or meta-wise everyone formed somewhere after 2000; pondering the incredible. Well, since nobody much appears to well know what Miho really is (or as has been said, that she actually exists) she could be as new as when spawned in or materialized in 1248, or as reimaged during the space between 1124 and 1247. Perhaps the same as Junko. Two decades plus however many years since Endgames. The same as Meimi. A few more numbers of decades old - less of a vintage than aged whiskey (not 200 but 160 or 80) older than the art for what she tells Kimiko (1700s, 1800s) if either of those are true. If she is older that that still, whatever {magical elven priestesses} might be. Perhaps as old as when humans developed an imagination, the psyche, the dawn of thoughts in the subconscious, or even since reality formed substance from the depths of null state. It's curious.

Currently the goings on are Piro and Kimiko though. It's possible there's only cold-water hair-washing in the future and the rest is wishful thinking, drawing away from the door and fading out or not. Yet again, how his conscience is dressed and behaving for the occasion. Things might ever be made more clear than that.

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by Teddy-Werebear » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:40 pm

Was Dr. Evil's layer in the second film located in a volcano island? I believe it was.
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by GouryG » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:12 pm

Teddy-Werebear wrote:
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Was Dr. Evil's layer in the second film located in a volcano island? I believe it was.
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by darrin » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:04 pm

GouryG wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:09 pm
Ok, I can see Piro first helping her get the toner out of her hair. By the time they are done they are both freezing and they hold each other close to try to warm up and then switch on the hot water. They then proceeded to help each other get cleaned up and the steam conviently obscures our view of any naughty bits. After they come out we have conviently placed objects blocking our view of any non PG rated body parts like in Austin Powers.
Except if Fred were gonna do that there wouldn't have been any reason to pull the camera out and away from them right now (classic move for keeping a pg-13 rating when non-pg-13 activities are imminent). Plus Seraphim's antics which basically translate into "looks like things are on track here, time for a scene change".

Next time we see them, they will be fully clothed; Megumi will be teasing them mercilessly; Piro will look even more sheepish and embarrassed than we've ever seen him, but will have conveniently forgotten how to speak Japanese (or at least enough to admit to understanding anything Megumi is saying); and Kimiko will be sporting a sneaky little Mona Lisa smile that will spark heated forum debate, half of us saying "Aww, look at that fake happy-happy forced smile, obviously things didn't go well" and half of us "ooh, look how happy she is, obviously things went well!" And classic Fred style we will never be given any details one way or the other. :lol:
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by GreyWolfe » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm

darrin wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:04 pm
Next time we see them, they will be fully clothed; Megumi will be teasing them mercilessly; Piro will look even more sheepish and embarrassed than we've ever seen him, but will have conveniently forgotten how to speak Japanese (or at least enough to admit to understanding anything Megumi is saying); and Kimiko will be sporting a sneaky little Mona Lisa smile that will spark heated forum debate, half of us saying "Aww, look at that fake happy-happy forced smile, obviously things didn't go well" and half of us "ooh, look how happy she is, obviously things went well!" And classic Fred style we will never be given any details one way or the other. :lol:
$10 they are caught holding hands on the way out and Megumi gives them the death glare.

That, or she revisits 1504 and hits him with a pout and some bedroom eyes and complains that he didn't invite her :lol:
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by Gerakis » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:18 pm

Oh man...I wish I joined these forums earlier. So much good insight from all of you. Thanks very much!! ☺

With regards to Miho and her side stories: I've always assumed that those were various video games she played. I figured that she would mess with people, and then "die", quitting said game and moving onto another one.

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by NinjaDefenestrator » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:26 pm

@cidjen

Holy crap, nice catch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balmenach_distillery

I’m sure someone looked it up at the time, but it was so long ago that I didn’t remember that detail.

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by Roamer » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:55 pm

GreyWolfe wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
darrin wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:04 pm
Next time we see them, they will be fully clothed; Megumi will be teasing them mercilessly; Piro will look even more sheepish and embarrassed than we've ever seen him, but will have conveniently forgotten how to speak Japanese (or at least enough to admit to understanding anything Megumi is saying); and Kimiko will be sporting a sneaky little Mona Lisa smile that will spark heated forum debate, half of us saying "Aww, look at that fake happy-happy forced smile, obviously things didn't go well" and half of us "ooh, look how happy she is, obviously things went well!" And classic Fred style we will never be given any details one way or the other. :lol:
$10 they are caught holding hands on the way out and Megumi gives them the death glare.

That, or she revisits 1504 and hits him with a pout and some bedroom eyes and complains that he didn't invite her :lol:
Or she combines the two and says something about how she should have accepted just to make sure he actually performed adequately.
paarfi wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:11 am
cidjen wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:24 am
Gerakis wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:35 pm
I personally never considered Miho a viable option [...]. Isn't she still a high school student?
(@Paarfi actually told me to not go that route ;) so I won't. and I discourage you too :) )
I'm just asking that we don't start the whole "age of consent in Japan" discussion again. It never ends well, and usually turns creepy really quickly. Miho's Story does demand that she be high school aged, and Miho knows that bad things happen when she tries to buck the Story. But like FujiiYakumo and SpaceCobraJoe pointed out though, the real Miho is maybe 150yrs old per the Miho Origin Story comics a while back.
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Dom was targeting Erika and Kimiko, not Miho. He wasn’t interested in “a tragic piece of leftover 3vil.” https://megatokyo.com/strip/1062

Junko’s father (working for Nintendo) is the one who seemed interested in monetizing Miho’s popularity now that her story might be changing. https://megatokyo.com/strip/1232

Pretty sure that last bit won’t go anywhere now that Miho’s story has been “paused,” rather than changed. Plus, y’know, Ibara’s an old drunk idiot and has probably forgotten all about Miho now that she’s respawned.

...or not. Now that could get interesting.
Dom might very well be interested in Miho now with the way her story has shifted. If you want sinister...what would it be worth to her enemies, and her truly rabid fans, to finally get the chance to devour her the way she's so rightly terrified of? I think he's cold-blooded enough to do it. Among other things, how much leverage would Ed give him to get involved in that? Enough to betray his employer? That kind of advantage would be worth a very great deal to Sega.

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by louisxiv » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:02 am

cidjen wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:07 pm
(edit I actually looked it up, the brand/distillery shown in [698] is about 195 years old ;) )
The distillery is that old, but the bottle and label is fairy modern and shows the whisky are 17 years old at time of bottling – zoom in on the 6th panel.

So all Miho is saying is that she's over 17 there…

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by cidjen » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:36 am

louisxiv wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:02 am
The distillery is that old, but the bottle and label is fairy modern and shows the whisky are 17 years old at time of bottling – zoom in on the 6th panel.
Oh nice catch... however a (rudimentary) google images search only found similare label... for a 12 year old one. I figure this may either really creepy, or it may be a Fredherring ;) I know it may be standing on the shelf for some time... but the labels don't really update themselves ;)
Nearest of more recent vintages I could find was this
darrin wrote:
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Next time we see them, they will be fully clothed; Megumi will be teasing them mercilessly;
LOL yeah, there is still the possibility of 't3h 4wkw4rd' to happen ;)
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So, perhaps why Seraphim mentioned Asmodeus is to gloat in the whole angel/devil conscience thing sort of way.
Humm interesting actually, why the bat-boy did not show up himself :)
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PS2 Accessory may have rolled off the assembly line
Strictly speaking, she's a hand-built prototype from the lab ;)
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Dom might very well be interested in Miho now with the way her story has shifted. If you want sinister...what would it be worth to her enemies, and her truly rabid fans, to finally get the chance to devour her the way she's so rightly terrified of? I think he's cold-blooded enough to do it. Among other things, how much leverage would Ed give him to get involved in that? Enough to betray his employer? That kind of advantage would be worth a very great deal to Sega.
If Dom did that on Sega's behalf (which I don't recall seeing there, he's posing as 'silent investor'? After all these years working for Sega, Dom may have accumulated enough wealth already to do it for himself.... or if you want really creepy, he then leverages Sega to buy his investment off with interest ... ? ) then the real-life plight of Sega from that time shows an interesting back-story LOL. Dealing with a 'popularity' like that can get really costly really quickly...

(especially if, as I think, Kimiko's and Piro's goal working on the game may become to make the 'bad ending' everyone ravishes in and devours, truly unremarkable, and the game itself focusing on the life, not the end - thus totally changing the story - as predicted in [371] - to save Miho permanently.
Piro might not love Miho any more, but he'd be partial to Kimiko's pleas to end Miho's suffering that way; but what comes out of this, may be something that the fanhorde doesn't want any more... would be in line with 'reality can be sad, sometimes' we've seen recently... )

EDIT to add a thought : but if anything, it was Ed who wants to kill Miho [but what does he not want to kill ?], Dom was actually showing more of 'indifference' to the 'tragic piece of leftover evil' than hate. Dom's true target here is Kimiko, and through that, Erika... Piro and Miho would just be collateral damage.
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by darrin » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:21 pm

GreyWolfe wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:52 pm
$10 they are caught holding hands on the way out and Megumi gives them the death glare.
I am kinda hoping that by then she will have had a chance to take a nice long hot bath, read a bunch of ninja pr0n, and be back to her cheerful but snarky self. The teasing will be razor sharp but I am expecting a leer rather than a glare. ;)
That, or she revisits 1504 and hits him with a pout and some bedroom eyes and complains that he didn't invite her :lol:
Well, she already did the 3-way joke, and I feel like she is not the type to harp on used material. By teasing I meant more along the lines of loud and pointed questions directed at Kimiko regarding her partner's "performance". Piro will fume and splutter, and Kimiko will do a lot of winking and grinning, but a) if nothing actually happened, Piro will be reluctant to admit that to avoid embarrassing Kimiko (and himself); and b) if anything did happen, Kimiko will pretend to be too shy and ladylike to admit it (but the hand gestures accompanying the winking will imply "I'll text you the details later ;)").

But no, I'm not staking $10 on any of that because Fred will actually do something much more wacky and orthogonal. :lol:
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by iffy » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:54 pm

1. In the past there were many discussions about her vague claim in 698:4 that she's older than something else is. (Why that would make anyone fairly sure she hasn't toyed with that thing or not is another question.) "{the sealed bottle is} almost older than I am" Starting with the obvious, if she is actually relating even some sense of factual plain honest truth there and not being figurative or lying or just saying something witty. Say it's truth, what does she even mean? The aged contents inside it (apparently 17 years), the date the bottle and contents was sent out on a truck (a day or a year ago?), when the the glass or bottle were manufactured (?) or the atoms of the glass and bottle and contents (infinite and unknown). One potential answer is it means whatever you think it means to establish whatever you think it establishes, and another is it means and establishes nothing and everything.

2. We don't really know for sure where or when Ping is exactly from, although perhaps it was made by Sony, and apparently there is an instruction manual for the 'SEV EDS models'. Then there is what various people (including her, an investor, and game company employees such as the maniac sent to eliminate her) have said about her. Also, what we've seen of her operation and malfunctioning and repair and modification. The point there being there's an actual and an apparent, which are not the same, but it doesn't matter because we're discussing what appears to have been a manufactured somehow programed computerized learning machine with potential supernatural powers. A very nice cute smart machine equivalent or better in most every way as a person, to at least be considered one, but still a machine. The example being that we don't know for sure that Tohya Miho isn't the same or effectively the same as that -- making some number unusable and meaningless, even if we knew what that number was or signified, which we don't.

3. Part of the whole discussion with Megumi seemed to establish she, like a great many others (including her grandmother, who runs a love hotel) aren't particularly of the same mindset as how Piro was being about it. Sure she might tease him about it later, but the point seemed to be she didn't care, and told him to go eat some candy on the playground if he couldn't see himself on the grown-up side of the swimming pool. (As far as her with Ninja in general or Junpei specifically, that explains something about her relationship with Komugiko, what she was saying that appears to apply more than just to one, and that how they were fighting and insults are not so serious.)

4. I think given the decision that was made, things aren't going to exactly be the same as they were. Like going out of one group of stories into the ASF and back into different stories or something of that nature 1124-1237. There won't be quite so much farming simulator where everything gets ruined 877. And nobody will need to create a fake translation to explain what the robot is 275. Which is to say, maybe nobody is likely to leave the room and start acting ultra shy.

5. On the subjects of Dom, Ed and then Ibara. They've all got some different ideas, plans, goals and attitudes, which explains quite a bit about what they represent. See, they're all supposed to be on the inside, look up details on datapads, and would seem to have the same general information sources about Tohya Miho. They appear to perhaps factually and logically know more about her than most anyone else (even the chap 1271 seems fully unaware of anything going on in MT with it). Yet none of the three of them seem to agree in the slightest about her even still. None of them can seem to take what they know and keep from reacting until they're controlled somehow. Whatever their knowledge it doesn't help them, because she's something like the source of powerful stories being made to happen to anyone nearby. Perhaps she's even the origin of all stories. But whatever she is, whatever they know, it appears to do them absolutely no good.

To recap a bit. They've all been seemingly removed from play.
- Dom dismisses her as weak and ineffectual, as she seemingly is doing something like causing all the stories going on, and he particularly sees her being Kimiko's confidant, and she ignores his threats and crushes his car with a flick of the wrist. He kinda got crushed by a kyuuubey-launched MG into-the-bookshelves missile something at Megagamers.
- Ed is zero aware of her until she pointedly and unconcernedly stops him from shooting at Ping, then becomes his only goal, which he fails at every time big time, until she lets him not do what he thinks he did. He got his clock cleaned at the CoE, maybe worst of all three.
- Ibara seems to know the most. Also he has been the least insanely psychopathic of the three, actually lives and has roots in MT, works at a more kinder gentler company (higher up ?), and appears experienced enough to be wiser about the situation. But we might say he fails the worst, as doesn't even get a chance to get anywhere near her to interact in the first place to even attempt to get anywhere, and then is out injured for at least the night maybe more.

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by Roamer » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:45 am

cidjen wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:36 am
Roamer wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:55 pm

Dom might very well be interested in Miho now with the way her story has shifted. If you want sinister...what would it be worth to her enemies, and her truly rabid fans, to finally get the chance to devour her the way she's so rightly terrified of? I think he's cold-blooded enough to do it. Among other things, how much leverage would Ed give him to get involved in that? Enough to betray his employer? That kind of advantage would be worth a very great deal to Sega.
If Dom did that on Sega's behalf (which I don't recall seeing there, he's posing as 'silent investor'? After all these years working for Sega, Dom may have accumulated enough wealth already to do it for himself.... or if you want really creepy, he then leverages Sega to buy his investment off with interest ... ? ) then the real-life plight of Sega from that time shows an interesting back-story LOL. Dealing with a 'popularity' like that can get really costly really quickly...

(especially if, as I think, Kimiko's and Piro's goal working on the game may become to make the 'bad ending' everyone ravishes in and devours, truly unremarkable, and the game itself focusing on the life, not the end - thus totally changing the story - as predicted in [371] - to save Miho permanently.
Piro might not love Miho any more, but he'd be partial to Kimiko's pleas to end Miho's suffering that way; but what comes out of this, may be something that the fanhorde doesn't want any more... would be in line with 'reality can be sad, sometimes' we've seen recently... )

EDIT to add a thought : but if anything, it was Ed who wants to kill Miho [but what does he not want to kill ?], Dom was actually showing more of 'indifference' to the 'tragic piece of leftover evil' than hate. Dom's true target here is Kimiko, and through that, Erika... Piro and Miho would just be collateral damage.
Dom's interest in her would be strictly as an asset he can make money, gain leverage, or score points off his opponents with. Which begs the question, who does he think of as his opponents? Ed is obviously a pawn to him; Piro he treats more as a bright student than an actual foe. Does he have any actual opposition left that works at his level, or has he removed them all from play? If he's that good, why is he working for Sega? Surely he could get more working from one of the big players.

Unless - and this is a really dangerous thought - Dom doesn't work for Sega. Maybe Sega works for Dom. With the right moves at the corporate level, and with someone like Ed to get rid of the persistent ones, Dom could be the éminence grise - the power behind the throne, the one calling the shots. That would explain how he got the money to invest in Lockart. And his interest in Kimiko and Erika, but not Miho. That line about a 'tragic piece of leftover evil' never rang true to me - Sega wants content providers with fans to generate revenue and attention, and Miho fits that fer sure - But Dom wants those he thinks he can control.

Control being his deciding factor even lines up with his moves so far. Lockart making the game gives Kimiko a platform to grow her fanbase and become much more valuable as a content provider. That might make her dangerous, but having Piro at Lockart gives Dom a way to control her. As long as her first concern is for Piro, and Dom keeps the threats subtle so Piro doesn't know about them, she'll do what Dom says. In the same way, Erika would normally be a loose cannon, but Dom already knows she'll play nice if someone she cares about is involved. And Moeko-Chan is so very helpless in her coma. (Use Largo as leverage? ROFL!)

Well....huh. I just thought of all that in the last few minutes. And I'm pretty short on sleep. Am I missing something here? Does this hold together? Has Dom been the Big Bad all along?

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by iffy » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:55 pm

Even if Dom was in charge of the company, and not just a field agent who is being more tactical about it (like by attempting to go behind the scenes as with the game studio etc instead of dealing with ninja or traipsing around the CoE) ? Whatever the case, Dom still ended up at Megagamers not making Piro make a choice or stopping the NPC, but crushed underneath a large shelf (that Yutaka ended up on top of when an escaping Yuki plowed it all down from the thing Piro threw down the stairs that Miho put on him)

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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by cidjen » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:28 am

I don't think the small matter of being crushed under a shelf (or 2), and weight of Yutaka and Yuki would deter someone who came back after being ran over by a delivery cart. He is merely delayed. As is Ed. Though Ed was Tetris-ed, Erika-elbowed and hamster-bombed. That's gotta leave a mark.
They both are like a clear and present danger.
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Re: [1513] - "Play"

Post by iffy » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:45 am

Ed gets respawned or cloned, who knows about either Ibara or Dom. But likely they're all as resilient as anything else in MT so far. Yet they are also all three of them hopelessly outclassed by everything else in MT so far.

It remains to be seen if Dom's machinations, posthumous or otherwise ;) wind up bearing any fruit for him. It seems investing and funding would put one in a good spot, but maybe the degree of control, or continued control, is fleeting or less than solid. Plus some of it rests upon an assumption Sight will actually be made. If Kimiko ends up a full fledged published famous VA or Piro as a full fledged published artist. A whole lot of other things, including what happens next with our story source.

Still though, whatever Dom is or could be currently, he's apparently as subject to the whims of fate and being trounced as any of the company men.

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