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[1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by iffy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:28 pm

maldrul wrote:
Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:59 pm
Miho confirms that she tossed a life when Ed killballed her.
She appears to refer to it when she is talking to Piro, not that he would have any idea what she meant. Confirmed, if that incident is what she's referring to, if she meant Ed's weapons killed her at the time, and if all that is the truth. Being just about devoid of any detail whatsoever, and said to someone who doesn't know any of it, is not a very compelling confirmation of anything.

All we know is Meimi appears to have reacted to whatever happened. Later, that schoolpeople started forgetting about her, Ping was still trying to find out where she went to, the CoE staff had all sorts of ideas about where she was and in what state, Piro had been previously told she'd be at the Analogue Support Facility. And that she was very much not dead when Yuki arrived after a week end a half.

The short of it is we do not know what happened the instant after she waves at Ed any more than we're informed of what went on with her between then and when Yuki shows up. The details are naught but perception and inference. Did she toss a life as in released to respawn free of the aggro, perhaps. Perhaps not. Did she confirm anything, not really.

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by Patty Acer » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:45 pm

S1arburst wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:57 pm


That's really strange, but I figured it didn't matter too much. If Miho is an enduring story type, and she's died a bunch of times, and the story she's forced to live is not who she actually was, than it seems like she could resurrect as a Japanese person, or an African person, or a South American person. If the essence of the story and how it makes people feel is all that matters. So sure, she could originally be from Ireland and then turn into Japanese. Why not. That still makes it really weird that Ninjagirl is the first one to ever mention that she's not Japanese, or act like it. How did SHE know?
This. Very this.

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by iffy » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:35 pm

Yuki learned a lot from the chats, now she's gone undercover in the ninja compound to see if Miho still has any power. ;)
Or it's Junpei's mother and much higher up in the scheme of things authority-wise (and already knew something) or much more perceptive of true natures (and is extrapolating while looking at something else bigger than appearance). I guess we could say, did she know it, or is she just guessing.
Unless it isn't true anyway. That she doesn't know at all, and has it wrong.

Clues so far lead to at least suggesting whoever and whatever Miho actually is, it's something many decades old from elsewhere and isn't as much a person as a notion. Inventiveness, synthesis, insight. If she is such, whatever we might call a semi-(more or less)immortal Gaelic (etc et al ad hoc de jour) force of fiction and stories that potentially become imbued with the powers of her and/or the implementor of such works. Is the source of ideas of a nation and people, does a muse or imagination hail from a certain place and time even if they were once a person from that place and time?

How figurative was that story told to Kimiko. How literal. How much metaphor and random was there or not. If you were an Analogue (whatever that is defined as) what sort of facts or stories would you tell, how embellished would you be. The problem there is if you don't know yourself what's actual and what's not, how could you tell, how would you explain what you don't understand, that you're not even aware of.

I suppose that all depends on how much we think Miho is aware of anything, and how much control she has ever had to have now lost.

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by S1arburst » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:52 pm

iffy wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:35 pm
How figurative was that story told to Kimiko. How literal. How much metaphor and random was there or not. If you were an Analogue (whatever that is defined as) what sort of facts or stories would you tell, how embellished would you be. The problem there is if you don't know yourself what's actual and what's not, how could you tell, how would you explain what you don't understand, that you're not even aware of.

I suppose that all depends on how much we think Miho is aware of anything, and how much control she has ever had to have now lost.
Exactly. Miho was telling a story about Kotone, that doesn't seem to fit into what we knew about Kotone previously, with pictures for us the audience that don't seem to fit with anything we knew about either Kotone or Miho. European out of the blue, what?

Miho has never ever yet clearly stated anything about her backstory, so as such we don't need to accept any particular point of view on that yet. And she has never mentioned anything about being Irish. Speaking in Gaelic isn't the same as saying, "I'm Irish" as you've said before, any more than speaking in English is.

Plus Miho is an unreliable witrness so we don't need to believe her anyway even if she ever does say something :D
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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by Patty Acer » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:02 pm

S1arburst wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:57 pm
That still makes it really weird that Ninjagirl is the first one to ever mention that she's not Japanese, or act like it. How did SHE know?
This. It bothers me that Ninjagirl is the only one, and I want to know the significance of her being the only one.

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by iffy » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:45 pm

If this female knows, it would be great to know what. Analogue? The real thing? Irish goddess? Digital being? Undead ex-pirate princess something? Also, how and why she knows whatever it is she knows. Still, that comment about what Miho is not could be taken as only suspecting or even fishing. Plus, maybe not just this one, there could be others who have known or thought, or felt something was off, but just didn't say or think anything. Or what they did say or think just wasn't shared with us.

What about Miho's response to the mention. Not too helpful. Perhaps she was doing what she often seems to do. Just let people think what they want, don't confirm or deny they're correct or incorrect. Say nothing, change the subject, give half-truths or vague non-committal responses, lie if needed. After all, even if Miho is not, that doesn't provide what Miho is instead.

Now, if the ninja is right and Miho is not, maybe nobody else does have any inkling of that. That could be because there's a shield or field, or something like Miho is one of the greatest actress ever. Which then it would seem this 'reality cover' wouldn't work fully and all the time on everything and everyone, and somebody else would know too. If this cover has failed, maybe more will start noticing, unless Miho dropped it on purpose, or if the ninja is just guessing or something like that. Which even if 100% correct, it could only be about another façade.

So yes it would be nice to learn enough to find out. Or at least learn more so as to create the proper questions to ask before trying to provide the answers. ;)

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by Sackett » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:06 am

garapagosu wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:52 am
Heywulf wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:56 pm
Awww... 'Ninja-girl' can't enjoy her refreshing ninja-drink. It looks like in panel 4 someone's gone high-speed to re-shuffle Miho's kimono-front.
Forgot to comment on this: The arrangement of the kimono could be important. The normal wear is left side on top of right. The opposite, right side over left is how the dead are dressed.

Schrödinger's Miho!
Hmm... In panels 1 and 3 it's worn left side on top of right. In panel 3 Miho declares her story is all about her death. In panel 4 and 5 the kimono is now right side over left. Then in panel 6 the ninja girl readjusts her kimono, switching it back to left over right.

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Re: [1485] - "no idea what is going to happen"

Post by Sackett » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:19 am

Looked at the kimono pictures some more.

Kimono first appears in last panel of https://megatokyo.com/strip/1472 left over right.

Left over right all through https://megatokyo.com/strip/1473 and https://megatokyo.com/strip/1474

We return to Miho in kimono in https://megatokyo.com/strip/1483 still consistently left over right, but in the last panel the ninja girl asks if she needs to kill Miho.

Then from the start of https://megatokyo.com/strip/1484 her kimono is right over left. In the last three panels ninja girl decides not to kill Miho, but I can't get a good look at her kimono.

In the first panel of https://megatokyo.com/strip/1485 Miho's kimono is back to left over right. In panel 3 Miho declares her story is all about her death. In panel 4 and 5 the kimono is now right side over left. Then in panel 6 the ninja girl readjusts her kimono, switching it back to left over right.

I'm beginning to think that the ninja girl is the one switching Miho's kimono from left to right, depending on whether she thinks Miho is dead (or imminently about to be dead). Not the first time we've seen ninja adjusting clothes on others so fast we can't see it happening.

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