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[1535] Pain

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by S1arburst » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:14 pm

Invisigoth wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:06 pm
I believe her medical device is an dual function ICD which can be pretty rough given that her heart may be fighting the defibrillation in an effort to correct back to her original story.
I vote for the dual function ICD too. Combination pacemaker and defibrillator. So it keeps her from dying. Still very distracting when you're taking electrical shocks to the heart strong enough to start it again. Or stop it.
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Small Pink Mouse » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:24 am

Just to belabor the obvious:

1. Ninjas are trained killers.
2. Yaku is still alive in spite of her protector being down.
3. Miho is not killed in spite of currently being helpless.
4. Ninja girl is talking instead of attacking and asking politely(?) whether Yaku needs help.

Conclusion: We have now gone from Combat Phase to Negotiation Phase. Ninja Girl has the temporary upper hand, knows it and intends to make a deal favorable to herself while the window of opportunity is open. On her side is that Miho might croak without help and that she does currently have the tactical advantage. On Yaku's side is that Miho might revive on her own or a random encounter might change the tide in Yuki's favor. So Ninja Girl does have a serious advantage over and above experience in this circumstance but probably understands quite well that she should bargain while she can and make it a fair one before that window closes. ^_^

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by cidjen » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:16 am

Invisigoth wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:41 pm
In the Twitch stream Fred made an Altered Carbon reference. Obaa-sama Shinobi leans close to Miho who whispers, "That's....fucking....enough"

Miho would of course survive :D
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by paarfi » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am

Small Pink Mouse wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:24 am
We have now gone from Combat Phase to Negotiation Phase.
Maybe Ninjagram is just going to do a little evil gloating before finishing off the hero. :ninja:
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Invisigoth » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:13 am

paarfi wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:35 am
Small Pink Mouse wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:24 am
We have now gone from Combat Phase to Negotiation Phase.
Maybe Ninjagram is just going to do a little evil gloating before finishing off the hero. :ninja:
I'm voting for them being cautious before getting too close

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Liminaut » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:53 pm

I can't imagine this actually happening, but this is my idea for the next strip:

YAKU: (Stands up, looking very serious) The pain from her chest was setting her whole being on fire.
But Miho suddenly realized deep within that she was much greater than the pain. She was not
strong enough to defeat the Ninjas, but she was fast enough to escape with her charge.

N1NJ4GRAM: Whaa ... SHUT HER ....

(panel of ninjas in a circle with no Yaku, Miho)

N1NJ4GRAM:(Holding up a cell phone) Inspector? We have a problem. We have an unregistered Author on the loose. With Miho.

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Invisigoth » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:13 pm

yep, they've got a fanfiction on the loose!!!!

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by paarfi » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:15 pm

Invisigoth wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:13 pm
yep, they've got a fanfiction on the loose!!!!
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by darrin » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:38 pm

Liminaut wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:53 pm
N1NJ4GRAM:(Holding up a cell phone) Inspector? We have a problem. We have an unregistered Author on the loose. With Miho.
<cut to Miho + Yaku, still traveling very high and very fast>
Yaku: Of course I filed a registration form. It was the first thing I did when I started drawing my doujinshi. Mom's got enough trouble as it is without those annoying TPCD jerks coming around and asking questions about me.

I don't think what Yaku is (on the verge of) doing is "fanfiction" per se. (She's made it clear she's not much of a fan of Miho's stupid story.) It looks more like she is trying to take over the story from the Original Author, potentially an even more dangerous situation than mere "fanfiction"...
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Rapierman » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:49 pm

I suspect that Miho is in a bit of a weak, if not compromising, situation. I hear blackmail coming.
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by HakuRyoku » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:24 pm

Anyone notice that the ninja are already armed again (assuming the same ninja were looted from in the first place) also, even the cat has a mask... how cute.
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by cidjen » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:19 am

darrin wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:38 pm
Liminaut wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:53 pm
N1NJ4GRAM:(Holding up a cell phone) Inspector? We have a problem. We have an unregistered Author on the loose. With Miho.
<cut to Miho + Yaku, still traveling very high and very fast>
Yaku: Of course I filed a registration form. It was the first thing I did when I started drawing my doujinshi. Mom's got enough trouble as it is without those annoying TPCD jerks coming around and asking questions about me.

I don't think what Yaku is (on the verge of) doing is "fanfiction" per se. (She's made it clear she's not much of a fan of Miho's stupid story.) It looks more like she is trying to take over the story from the Original Author, potentially an even more dangerous situation than mere "fanfiction"...
Hmm I'm seeing a template here :)

Yuki is NOT A FAN of Erika

Yakugashi is NOT A FAN of Miho

Piro is NOT A FAN of Miho (though he used to be) but now

Piro is a fan of Kimiko

Largo wasn't at first, but now is a fan of Erika

We need someone in the cast, who is NOT A FAN of Kimiko ? Or is that going to be Miho now?
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Roborat » Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:36 pm

HakuRyoku wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:24 pm
Anyone notice that the ninja are already armed again (assuming the same ninja were looted from in the first place) also, even the cat has a mask... how cute.
I like that the archer ninja wears glasses.

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Hetz » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:04 pm

BetaCygnus wrote:
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Oh and Hetz? Sorry to disappoint you, but cidjen did ninja you concerning the cat…
Damnit! I missed that...

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by DrunkenSailor » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:57 am

Miho's clothing in frame two seems to have adapted to female action hero mode, it's falling off. And is that a sleepy Ninja in the crook of a tree in that frame, just above the hilt of the sword to the left of Miho?

NinjaGranny is still a wild card here. She could announce she was helping Miho start a new story by giving her someone to rescue, and then actually call on her medical Ninja to help her. We just don't know about her. Unless that's the case, she seems to be more interested in Yaku than Miho. Miho's only danger from NG in that case is being in her way and of course having thrashed a good portion of her ninja clan.

Did someone say fan fiction???

I'm still hoping for some help for young Yaku from the foxes in this area of the forest. Intervention of a fox queen or somesuch. Someone supercool enough that even NG shows fear. Bonus points if she prevents Yaku from being hurt by sending the youngster away to run with the pack for a while in complete young fox form. Double bounus if she sends Miho away with her in similar form. Yeah, no way on the last one, but if engaging in behaviors too far from her accepted personality allows her to sneak away from her fans and their retribution, (see, the plot from yesterday) wouldn't turning into a dog fit the bill nicely.

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Invisigoth » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:02 pm

I'm pretty sure that if Obaa-sama Shinobi isn't scared of Miho that there's not any kitsune in the local woods who can intimidate her

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by cidjen » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:40 pm

DrunkenSailor wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:57 am
Miho's clothing in frame two seems to have adapted to female action hero mode, it's falling off. And is that a sleepy Ninja in the crook of a tree in that frame, just above the hilt of the sword to the left of Miho?
Looks like it, there is a 'sleeping' human figure hung in half on the branch :)
There were *silent screams* there after all.
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Hecatombe » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:30 pm

Now Yaku, try to remember. What was the name of that friendly ninja that brought you here?

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by TarsTarkas » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:14 pm

Miho knows the name too, so there is still time before she succumbs. Then it will be a matter of hard questions for our favorite LEET ninja.

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by iffy » Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:59 pm

Again, if her real story has everyone around Miho die, how is that supposed to work. Pacemaker or not. Seems more story-driven then.

Perhaps the story that Yaku started to start is ongoing and is an accelerated one. The last time Miho jump-rescued somebody it didn't cause any medical distress, that built up over a long while of moving twisting story. Ninja female person here seems looking at Yaku and asking if help is needed, perhaps our esteemed clan leader etc expected something like this to happen to Miho? She's not seeming to be very surprised that Miho got away from the escorts taking her to the other stories. Or that Miho ninja'd her and took Yaku away. But why even ask if Yaku needs help, clearly she does, from the one asking it, but who isn't doing anything, because?

The suggestion about creating a genre (reset?) coupled with some of the behaviors and seemingly matching power levels to Miho and a particular awareness of story interactions along with that apparent youthfulness..... We might very well have another Analogue here. One who's savvy about the constraints. Might make being a big part of stability a lot easier to accomplish. Although it could just be she's learned quite a few tricks being in charge of this ninja family. Something about her is odd though. Not least of which how she isn't taking action about these two or looking concerned they'd try and call anyone. (And, or, why would she have cared in the first place if Junpei showed up for that matter.)

Well, however much power alleged ninjagranny has, right now it looks to be more than what Miho does. Quite curious.

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by BetaCygnus » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Liminaut wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:53 pm
I can't imagine this actually happening, but this is my idea for the next strip:

°thumbs up for that one°

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by cidjen » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:49 am

cidjen wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:04 am

Well there wasn't any huffing from exhaustion / onset of coronary failure / heart attack...
So it may be that.

Or Piro and Kimiko actually did get so united now, that the act has cut the last ties binding Miho to the world.
Maybe the traces of what was left of her in Piro's heart, did keep her alive?
And this would also sort-of explain, why Miho did not die when she 'saved' Kimiko back then near [1002] (although there, Kimiko did not even realize she's been 'saved' ([1018]))
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by BetaCygnus » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:09 am

cidjen wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:49 am
… 'saved'…
(2x)

Hear, hear. =)
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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by Mamma Peach » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:02 pm

Iffy, I'm not sure she is asking Yaku... I was under the impression she was asking Miho if she needed help, dying perhaps...

As to the heart pain, ominous as it is considering Miho's story driven life, I can attest personally that bad heart pain may not be a fatal sign, or even near fatal. I had some on Sunday and Monday. (Think leg cramp pain in the chest instead of the leg... It really hurts!) It seems my atrial fibrillation wasn't cured by the cardioversion (heart shocking to get it back in rhythm) and I'll have to go to the hospital again next month for an ablation (burning off the offending tissue, via catheter). It might still be a more simple problem than before for Miho. (We won't know for sure till later.)

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Re: [1535] Pain

Post by iffy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:00 pm

At first I thought it was a jab at Miho, but looking at the eyes, and where Yaku is looking, and Miho's current seeming incapacitation, had to come to the conclusion the question was for Yaku.

Either way it's kinda weird, even in some boasting taunting snide sort of sense. Like the situation or reaction or next move was the point, not actually what was happening.

There's not necessarily some solid kind of vibe from what 'ninja clan leader' wants or why she's doing any of it or who/what she really is or what she really knows. However, aside from being kind of a jerk, and a speciesist, and bigot for appearances to others, there's been a practical reason (apparently) for what she's been doing, which hasn't included beating up or killing anyone. Or not really trying even. Even what she says could be more for effect than anything else.

Yet just like with a lot of other characters, nobody is necessarily a villain here. Even though most everyone looks like they could be (or is) to some extent. And some more than others. But then again, we don't know who if anyone is actually doing things on their own motivation and with awareness. Like looking at Erika's actions in 1372/1383 or most of what Ed has done or maybe even many of Ping's behaviors. Although part of that is perception, and vantage point even still. But not everyone seems to be free to choose what they want, even if it looks like they are.

Although how weird asking Yaku if help is needed just might need to wait for at least one more comic to find out. In the middle of it, it sure does look strange though.

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