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[1515] Reset?

Post by paarfi » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:43 am

Fred has posted the new comic to his Patreon. He'll post it to the main site and elsewhere tomorrow.
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[1515] - "Reset?"

Post by Invisigoth » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:44 am

New comic up on Patreon

https://www.patreon.com/fredrin/posts

Miho doesn't appear to be ready for a reset at this point.

Looks like she knocked a knot on Ninja Grrls head...and Yaku arrives for the save even if that wasn't the intent

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by paarfi » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:48 am

Hmm.

Is Ninjagrrl not really allowed in Junpei room when he's out? That would kind of imply she's more Junpei sister than Junpei grandma. Or maybe it's that she didn't want to get caught almost killing the woman that Junpei had brought there to protect. Junpei probably wouldn't look kindly upon that no matter who Ninjagrrl really is.

A wild Yaku appears! She looks like she could use a donut.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by DracMonster » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:08 pm

paarfi wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:48 am
Hmm.

Is Ninjagrrl not really allowed in Junpei room when he's out? That would kind of imply she's more Junpei sister than Junpei grandma. Or maybe it's that she didn't want to get caught almost killing the woman that Junpei had brought there to protect. Junpei probably wouldn't look kindly upon that no matter who Ninjagrrl really is.

A wild Yaku appears! She looks like she could use a donut.
Or maybe she's worried Yaku overheard the murder talk. I'd probably make myself scarce, too.

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by Invisigoth » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:59 pm

Well, Yaku is still a kid despite her fierce demeanor so it's possible that Ninja Grrl is holding to a standard of not frightening the children and livestock

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by arimareiji » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:24 pm

It looks increasingly likely that my speculation way back when is accurate: Kunoichi-san is grandma, not imouto. (1471)

Edit: And it would be in keeping with the anime tradition of 400-year-olds looking like they're 14-year-olds.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by NinjaDefenestrator » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:01 am

Yeah, only Grandmother would get to be lazy like that regarding an emergency termination order. I get the feeling that she’s more entertained by the whole situation than concerned.

For maximum trolling, we might never find out if NinjaGrrl really is Grandma or not.

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Post by GreyWolfe » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:03 am

And so enters Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by arimareiji » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:50 am

NinjaDefenestrator wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:01 am
Yeah, only Grandmother would get to be lazy like that regarding an emergency termination order. I get the feeling that she’s more entertained by the whole situation than concerned.

For maximum trolling, we might never find out if NinjaGrrl really is Grandma or not.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by paarfi » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:24 am

So are the Ninjas special abilities also horde-powered, like with magical girls and character analogs? I'm struggling to think of any other reason why creating the ninja movie genre would have been important in this sense. It kinda fits with what they already do with character analogues, idols, etc.

Also, Vis has a good point about Miho. She may be scared of being off-story, but she doesn't really want to go back.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by Invisigoth » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:16 am

It'd be so easy too, just close your eyes and relax...there'll be a bit of a sting....you've done this before....just relax....I'll make this as comfortable as possible....

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by Old_Gray_One » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:21 am

I like how Junpei looks like he's thinking "<Now this is going to get embarrassing. I really didn't want to bring her here, but.....>"

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by dparky » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:35 am

Uh oh, this is going to end well.

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by iffy » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:39 am

Well, random family member, Junpei's sister/mother/grandmother, interloper; she seems more curious about what's going on, more interested in playing with the Analogue, gives the impression of trying to gather information she doesn't have. That could just be more illusionary noise though, and there is actually a reason to wait, some particular window of opportunity. But still, seems like stalling. (Plus if she knows so much or is immune to the real thing, why so many questions and so many things that are seemingly new or surprising to her?)

At first I thought the uh oh was a sense of impending doom, about yet another player interacting with yet another story in another way. Perhaps this ninja is aware of what happens if you force yourself into a story you don't belong in, that things were getting out of pause mode, has some method to be aware of anger towards Miho or of "'cheating' players" shoving things new ways. Perhaps even noticing this is an event that has lead to the revitalization of Miho, assuming she was as week before as she might have been. Well Miho's moods in the panels as it goes along, esp 4 are eek cute anyway. And haha 6 the depression from ninjagirl sitting there is still there.

But then it seemed, maybe ninjagirl just felt Junpei had showed up, which scramming would seem more like what a little sister might do. Perhaps that look on his face is odd, unless you consider he is chuckling as he notes she failed to actually scramble to where he couldn't notice. (which means it's not unusual and he doesn't mind much and perhaps this idea she's faster than him is one she has because he lets her be) Which it could all be that in this place, that's just how grandmother rules are, and that's who she is. Yet sister seems more to match skedaddling when big brother shows up, getting away being more important than protecting family, fee, stability. Interloper sort of fits that too, but then we'd have to believe that stuff about family is a lie, and that makes it rather nonsensical she didn't just try and kill Miho and leave, why lie about that or try to find out anything.

For the time being, I'll go with break time is over, opportunity lost, we have started a new/new-ish story courtesy of Yakugashi.

Although some of that assumes that any of the existing stories and paths are really over. Or if Miho is actually confused about (not) wanting a reset. Well okay, she's never clear about what she wants or what's going to happen regardless if she wants it. That's a perpetual wonder. And about things being over, oh, Miho was killed and she'll be gone forever... 9 days/19 months.... oh wait no she isn't, ooops.

Either way I wonder what Yaku plans on saying or doing to Miho right now. Angry about Mugi getting hurt, upset about Miho's callous disregard for feelings; does Yaku not being fully human, and in her youthful exuberance etc, actually know something of import and impact? Or would it appear to only be another case of potentially Yuki and a sense of knowing better not being tempered by experience.

paarfi wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:24 am
I'm struggling to think of any other reason why creating the ninja movie genre would have been important in this sense.
Perhaps Ninjagirl simply has some very fanciful notions of why there are ninja. Perhaps she's not yet actually accredited herself. It does seem complicated.

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I like how Junpei looks like he's thinking "<Now this is going to get embarrassing. I really didn't want to bring her here, but.....>"
Like he's amused about something whatever it is.

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by GouryG » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:58 am

Oh boy, I see dark storm clouds gathering. Poor Junpei, that OH SHIT look on his face says it all. Now add one pissed off Kitsune and we are going to have some fireworks. I suspect that Junpei's family is pretty high in the ninja heiararchy seeing that it doesn't seem that so far they don't seem concerned about any retaliation by another ninja clan for not carrying out the emergency termination order. Could the Head Ninja be family? It will be interesting to see what happens once the dust settles.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by cidjen » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:25 am

iffy wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:39 am
scramming would seem more like what a little sister might do
iffy wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:39 am
Ninjagirl simply has some very fanciful notions of why there are ninja
Perhaps she's a product of the 'moving pictures' era as we are :J been sitting in front of a TV as often as gone training while parents were out on missions.
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Miho is actually confused about (not) wanting a reset.
Maybe she's having second thoughts, but then, what of her 'you don't have any f*king idea how much I want to live!' shoutout a few comics ago...
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only Grandmother would get to be lazy like that regarding an emergency termination order.
I don't think so... grandmother would /maybe/ sit patiently and demand answers from Junpei before executing on the order herself, if she judged his motives petty enough. Sister/junior member of the clan - probably knows she would face Junpei's anger (even tho she's faster than him).
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by darrin » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:44 am

Ah ha ha ha. I gotta admit, was not that huge a Yakugashi fan at first but she is starting to grow on me. :D

I am most strongly reminded of that (10th) Doctor Who episode, the hapless guy kneeling on the ground, menaced by a horrible disgusting monster that has just killed all the guy's friends, when Rrr! Rrrrr! The TARDIS appears, and the Doctor and Rose step out! Only instead of saving him from the horrible monster, Rose starts yelling at him. :lol: :lol: "You made my Mum cry!"
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by Invisigoth » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:46 pm

Actually Fred was dropping some huge knowledge bombs in regards to there being a genre of movies dedicated to Ninja's. That's a much better discussion to be having rather than the tired old. "Blahblahblah...what that character said didn't align with my personal theory of how things work so they must be lying...." dismissal

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Post by BetaCygnus » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:17 pm

That look on Junpei’s face looks more like "I’m sorry!" than like "Oh s**t" — to me.

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by darrin » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:32 pm

BetaCygnus wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:17 pm
That look on Junpei’s face looks more like "I’m sorry!" than like "Oh s**t" — to me.

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Really? Now that I look at it more closely, I'd almost say he's smiling, that "eyes closed with raised eyebrows" smile one sees fairly often in manga (and MegaTokyo; only one I can think of now is this; sorry but it's kind of hard to google or search ninja for facial expressions :P). Something like "Ha, I see you've met my little sister, ain't she cute? :D".
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Post by Calaron » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:08 pm

darrin wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:32 pm

Really? Now that I look at it more closely, I'd almost say he's smiling, that "eyes closed with raised eyebrows" smile one sees fairly often in manga (and MegaTokyo; only one I can think of now is this; sorry but it's kind of hard to google or search ninja for facial expressions :P). Something like "Ha, I see you've met my little sister, ain't she cute? :D".
Nope, I agree with the embarrassed "sorry" expression. The eyes look like your example, but the eyebrows are inverted, which (I think) indicates embarrassment. All it's really missing is the big anime drop of sweat to drive the point home.

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Post by cidjen » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:14 pm

darrin wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:32 pm
"eyes closed with raised eyebrows"
His expression seems sort-of apologetic to me too, the inside ends of his eyebrows are raised ... like 'sorry, I had to, I've been blackmailed into this'...

Would the Ninjagrrl have succeeded killing Miho if Yaku and Junpei did not show up? Miho seems to be faster and stronger than the Grrl, although the Grrl can evade Miho's attacks sometimes (maybe only when pays enough attention, in p4 she didn't, or in other places Miho was too distracted...)
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by Teddy-Werebear » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:24 pm

Dither dither, fritter fritter... I think Nabiki is a procrastinator of the highest order. Her super duper ninjagurl speed probably magnifies her procrastinating nature. She might be late to her own funeral. She also might be on the ADHD spectrum, or what was properly called hyper active when I grew up in the 70s and 80s. Junpei gets back and Nabiki has to pop smoke.
No way is that granny kunoichi. She would have probably made tea spiked with fast acting poison to send foul Miho off to the long goodnight. If Miho did not drink... granny would have been all "Tsk tsk, you chose poorly child, the hard way it is then!" Junpei and Yaku enter. "Junpei be a dear and clean up your room... it is in such a horrible state for company."

That would have been too cool! :D

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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by garapagosu » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:37 pm

Is it appropriate to murder Junpei's guest while they stay at your residence?

Perhaps ninja honor would prevent Miho's death, even with the emergency order in place.
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Re: [1515] Reset?

Post by jkhartl » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:51 pm

cidjen wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:14 pm
Would the Ninjagrrl have succeeded killing Miho if Yaku and Junpei did not show up? Miho seems to be faster and stronger than the Grrl, although the Grrl can evade Miho's attacks sometimes (maybe only when pays enough attention, in p4 she didn't, or in other places Miho was too distracted...)
When Miho first arrived she had just gotten off a major rampage since then she has gotten her second wind and recoverd a few wits.
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Is it appropriate to murder Junpei's guest while they stay at your residence?
Perhaps ninja honor would prevent Miho's death, even with the emergency order in place.
At least they know where to find her.
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