Re: [1588] things left behind
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:09 pm
Chokky is a cousin and Ashe's roommate. I think the dental issue isn't something that is in comic yet and may not be so that point is moot I suppose.
Wait, what?
Well, her reading for the part of Kotone made Sayuri want to reject the genki aspect of Kotone's characterInvisigoth wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:59 pmThere is apparently some confusion about the exact nature of Nanasawa Kimiko. She is utterly soulless, even moreso than poor Ping who is at least self aware enough to realize her situation. Kimiko smoothly insinuated herself into Piro and Miho’s affairs like a slightly imperfect doppelgänger.
Miho was aware of what was happening and could feel the intimacy between Piro and Kimiko in her own body
If there’s anyone truly vile in the story it is Nanasawa
You haven't known any serious actors, have you. Because that's what they do. Not by being soulless..just by being able to place themselves into another's head. Which, far from being soulless, requires a TON of empathy to do well. Maldrul is exactly right in his assessment.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:59 pmThere is apparently some confusion about the exact nature of Nanasawa Kimiko. She is utterly soulless, even moreso than poor Ping who is at least self aware enough to realize her situation. Kimiko smoothly insinuated herself into Piro and Miho’s affairs like a slightly imperfect doppelgänger.
Miho was aware of what was happening and could feel the intimacy between Piro and Kimiko in her own body
If there’s anyone truly vile in the story it is Nanasawa
Yup, the timing is right, and that's where she said she was going. We still might get the reality/derriere clash, depending on how easily Piro blushes.Eraden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:45 amBOOOOOO! I have a sneaking suspicion that the person knocking on the door, is Megumi. If this is indeed true, it means that any hijinks with regards to Megumi's departure from her room have been swiftly bypassed. I somehow feel robbed. I was hoping to see a clash between reality and derriere accouterments. It would have sharply alerted Megumi to her new status and made for an amusing scene.
Not going to ask how you know how she smells. Nope. And I agree, she's the best person she can be, for MT.*Teddy-Werebear wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:11 amKimiko smells good, does not turn my stomach, nor tie my guts in knots. She is an overall good person in MegaTokyo.
Megumi is a good person also... I think she is somehow blithely unaware of being a 9 Tailed Fox Woman. How that is possible at this point I can not explain, cosmic sorcery perhaps, I do not know... but it feels like she is still unawares.
I predict Ping or Junko knocking at the door.
I would not answer the door, if I was Piro.
That look on Kimiko's face is alluring and promises things... good things, fun things.
Congratulations...except for word choice, that could easily have been mistaken for Teddy talking about Miho. Please note that most actors lack depth of their own when they're young, usually not a good thing. We haven't seen Kimiko in a relationship until now, so I think reserving judgement is reasonable.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:53 amThis discussion reminded me of projects/ZGPY40. This sums up the aspect of Kimiko I was discussing. Of course she doesn't smell bad or turn your stomach for how else can she lure you in and consume your soul in order to leave you a desiccated husk? Recall the train incident where Piro finally stood up to her for a change and the way she manipulated everyone around in order to attempt to sink her fangs into him once again.
Perhaps when she and Piro are done she'll steal Largo away from Erika.
They are both young adults or full adults in the comic. Prudish projection on obviously adult characters in this comic always mystifies me. They are both 30 +/- a few years old in comic. A month is not too fast or too slow for sex to happen because it was presented in an organic progression... for MT.
hahaha, well you're perceptive but somehow failed to catch my tongue in cheek send up for what it isRoamer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:21 pmCongratulations...except for word choice, that could easily have been mistaken for Teddy talking about Miho. Please note that most actors lack depth of their own when they're young, usually not a good thing. We haven't seen Kimiko in a relationship until now, so I think reserving judgement is reasonable.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:53 amThis discussion reminded me of projects/ZGPY40. This sums up the aspect of Kimiko I was discussing. Of course she doesn't smell bad or turn your stomach for how else can she lure you in and consume your soul in order to leave you a desiccated husk? Recall the train incident where Piro finally stood up to her for a change and the way she manipulated everyone around in order to attempt to sink her fangs into him once again.
Perhaps when she and Piro are done she'll steal Largo away from Erika.
Who said anything about a relationship? Casual sex commonly occurs between adults who share a moment of connectedness.
Miho knows what's up, she is experiencing it though she's not happy with it https://megatokyo.com/strip/1520
I kind of suspected (dessicated husk?) but it's so hard to tell in forums - I still wonder how serious Teddy is about Miho sometimes - that it's easier to take everything at face value unless it's truly obvious.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:11 pmhahaha, well you're perceptive but somehow failed to catch my tongue in cheek send up for what it isRoamer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:21 pmCongratulations...except for word choice, that could easily have been mistaken for Teddy talking about Miho. Please note that most actors lack depth of their own when they're young, usually not a good thing. We haven't seen Kimiko in a relationship until now, so I think reserving judgement is reasonable.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:53 amThis discussion reminded me of projects/ZGPY40. This sums up the aspect of Kimiko I was discussing. Of course she doesn't smell bad or turn your stomach for how else can she lure you in and consume your soul in order to leave you a desiccated husk? Recall the train incident where Piro finally stood up to her for a change and the way she manipulated everyone around in order to attempt to sink her fangs into him once again.
Perhaps when she and Piro are done she'll steal Largo away from Erika.
I'll try to be more serious next time
At some point we're going to get a cut to Miho waking up in bed with Komu. That ought to be interesting.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:22 pmMiho knows what's up, she is experiencing it though she's not happy with it https://megatokyo.com/strip/1520
Yes (or at least, for some cultures of thought), though I was thinking more on a character basis, not people in general. Piro has had quite the progression from his initial introduction. Can talk to women without fleeing. Can be assertive(ish) and protective. Appears to (have grown to) treat real world people significantly different than characters in the games he has played. He seems much more trying for a steady measured pace https://megatokyo.com/strip/1081. He is forgetful and impulse buys, but sex without commitment? That just does not match with my read on Piro.tambo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:27 amWho said anything about a relationship? Casual sex commonly occurs between adults who share a moment of connectedness.
Maybe there won't be anything beyond this one encounter, and maybe that will be fine with everyone. Or maybe it will be a temporary thing, or a sporadic thing. Or maybe they haven't figured it out yet. All of those are distinct possibilities beyond "they hooked up so they're committed to each other now" BS.
Huh, I totally missed that. Will need to reread the context around that strip.Invisigoth wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:22 pmMiho knows what's up, she is experiencing it though she's not happy with it https://megatokyo.com/strip/1520
I think it's more popular than you believe. They haven't known each other that long but it's been a very intense relationship. Piro has grown, and Kimiko has had a front row seat to see it. In the last month all of the major characters have had one or another's in serious and even lethal situations. It's the sort of environment where relationships are grown and trust established very quickly. These two have told each other their secrets, had a really ugly fight, shared a very lumpy bed, helped save someone else's life...encounters and experiences that many couples take years to experience.alpha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:30 pmLooks like I have a pretty unpopular opinion.
Yes (or at least, for some cultures of thought), though I was thinking more on a character basis, not people in general. Piro has had quite the progression from his initial introduction. Can talk to women without fleeing. Can be assertive(ish) and protective. Appears to (have grown to) treat real world people significantly different than characters in the games he has played. He seems much more trying for a steady measured pace https://megatokyo.com/strip/1081. He is forgetful and impulse buys, but sex without commitment? That just does not match with my read on Piro.tambo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:27 amWho said anything about a relationship? Casual sex commonly occurs between adults who share a moment of connectedness.
Maybe there won't be anything beyond this one encounter, and maybe that will be fine with everyone. Or maybe it will be a temporary thing, or a sporadic thing. Or maybe they haven't figured it out yet. All of those are distinct possibilities beyond "they hooked up so they're committed to each other now" BS.
Kimiko, well, seems like she would respect Piro.
No that's fine, just ... this might not just be a story this straight forward
I've pondered who may be running Kimiko, for a long time I had assumed that it was Moh since he is Piroko's boyfriend and messing with her would be the sort of thing that he'd do since he's got a sort of gallows humour about him. After all who asks a girl out after she's shot you when you were attending to her in the emergency room.cidjen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:55 amNo that's fine, just ... this might not just be a story this straight forward
As in Invis' theory of layered game worlds, Megatokyo being the (mini)game played by the UnMod characters when they're not doing 'work' in their own universe; so Piroko (UM) plays Piro in MT, M0h plays Miho, Largo & Erika play themselves; but it is layered too that Piroko is a character that Piro himself uses in games, I'm just getting a vibe that the person (from the layer above UM) who plays both Piro and Kimiko or (t)he(y) have someone close playing the other character, I suspect a spouse or a sibling... and they share a screen like in the Lego games
Where are you getting that "without commitment" is part of Piro's mindset or plans regarding Kimiko?
Except "tickets" haven't been mentioned since eight chapters ago, and the only "expense" in the 1151 conversation that Piro mentions explicitly are the eyeglasses Erika bought him. There's no more evidence for your interpretation than for Piro being well aware that living in the Megagamers storage attic (without even basic plumbing facilities) isn't sustainable, and wanting to spend the night with his girlfriend (should the occasion arise) on something more comfortable than a bunch of cardboard boxes.
I get that, but this possibility was never really (even alluded to be) removed: yes in 1151 it is being said it's for the glasses. And damn right if MY newfound girlfriend found ME a job I would only dream of when I was back home, then damn right /I/ would do whatever it gets, to keep both; tis the story of my actual life even tho my SO isn't originally from whence we went to get the job but isn't that just... projecting my own expectations into the character? something that has been pointed out as a sort-of clue of the matter 'main problem with fans', multiple times in the comic? Sure /I/ would, and /I/ can hope Piro would, but there wasn't really a proof to the contrary here either. Apart from maybe Piro character growth and him /wanting/ to be with this girl (and btw we don't even know for sure, if he's been told whether he got the job or not). (And it really doesn't clash with the practce of me 'shipping' them or making dreamy imaginary predictions either, because it's my imagination, not expectations )darrin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:36 am
I will see your Chekhov's Gun and raise you an Occam's Razor: if Piro is just after some causal "sex without commitment", then pretending to go along with a plan to commit to a long-term artistic role at a well-known company on a VN project of significant notoriety is a remarkably convoluted way to accomplish that goal. The claim that Fred would intend this -- without providing any evidence in-comic that Piro has such an ulterior motive and is just deceiving Kimko -- is unjustifiably elaborate compared to him having basically told the truth in the 1151 and related conversations.