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[TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 pm
by Rapierman
New comic for the side strip "Tokyo Threat Detection Project" on the Webtoon page.

To be honest, this is looking more and more like a treatise on racism. injustice and various ills of society.

Truth be told, If I wasn't aware that this was a webcomic story, I would have been inclined to.....

.....nah, not gonna say it. Too violent....

....lets just say that I would have effected a rescue mission.

But we all know that this is fiction....even if it was touching upon a controversial real-life subject. It's merely Fred being very talented at telling a story well enough to elicit some emotions. Well played, sir, ya got me there.

Now, the question I have in my mind: Is this story about to go down a very dark path....or is there something coming that will change the situation for the better? I know Fred won't say, but let's start placing our bets now.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:55 pm
by HakuRyoku
Is it strange that I actually feel worse for Masamichi than I do Chokage? His is not a position I envy... here he is trying to manage and compromise with a disobedient person in order to facilitate and manage other potentially dangerous situations all the while trying to help them turn their own life around. Meanwhile the delinquent in question seems to have given up on all redemption and is willing to submit themselves to the full wrath of the system...

This does not mean that I don't feel bad for Chokage, I feel terrible and very sympathetic towards her, her expression towards the end after Masamichi rattles off the mandatory punishments just makes me want to full embrace hug her.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:01 am
by Roamer
I don't think we can yet say this involves racism - although you can make a good case based on those guidelines.

Based on what we know about MT, the city put the TCPD in place because they don't want the public to know the truth. Masamichi had his Magical Girl Detector silenced, almost certainly because he knew eventually his daughter would set it off - and what the consequences might be. Fortunately she wasn't publicly identified, which is the city's interest. They don't care about race, sex, politics, or even enforcing the law. Masamichi doesn't even blink about the obvious assault of someone else, caught on camera and made into a CD cover! TCPD is there ONLY to make sure that the public doesn't get to see the man behind the curtain.

Which makes the obvious question, what happens when they finally do see it? Not one or a handful, but everyone?
HakuRyoku wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:55 pm
Is it strange that I actually feel worse for Masamichi than I do Chokage? His is not a position I envy... here he is trying to manage and compromise with a disobedient person in order to facilitate and manage other potentially dangerous situations all the while trying to help them turn their own life around. Meanwhile the delinquent in question seems to have given up on all redemption and is willing to submit themselves to the full wrath of the system...

This does not mean that I don't feel bad for Chokage, I feel terrible and very sympathetic towards her, her expression towards the end after Masamichi rattles off the mandatory punishments just makes me want to full embrace hug her.
While I sympathize with Masamichi, he put himself in that chair. While I know he thinks the job is necessary - MT has almost been lost in the past due to the actions of a certain Dark Magical Girl - he's still threatening someone with disfigurement. Seriously, if you're going to make her vanish for years, I would think that would be sufficient.

And I don't think Chokage has given up on redemption. I think she doesn't think that TCPD has the right to do what they threaten, and isn't willing to play. I rather admire that.

Also, I would be careful surprise hugging her, based on that whole assault thing.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:02 am
by Arent
It's just a men in black spoof.

About managing dangerous Zilla monsters, which sometimes destroy half of megatokyo and sometimes take the form of a deceptively cute Foxgirl.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:11 am
by Arent
And the message is that cute foxgirls are much harder to manage than Zilla monsters which you can just shoot.

And the guy to be pitied here is Masamichi, who would rather take on a Zilla, instead of dealing with this dangerously cute foxgirl.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 4:07 am
by Roamer
Arent wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 12:11 am
And the message is that cute foxgirls are much harder to manage than Zilla monsters which you can just shoot.
Or just hire a nice MG to feed it pork rinds and lead it back to the cage.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 7:24 am
by cidjen
I wonder, was the Zilla-chan a monster that TPCD confined to animal form for some insubordination...?

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:00 am
by Yl33 D4 N00b
No tail? So maybe not a foxgirl, but something else?

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 6:33 pm
by Rapierman
Roamer wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 12:01 am
I don't think we can yet say this involves racism - although you can make a good case based on those guidelines.
You're right, it's not actual racism. What I'm saying here is that the behaviors exhibited so far is similar to what we find in racism. Fred is basically giving us an essay on the pitfalls of human behavior in general through this particular strip. Discrimination and/or persecution of any kind based on any sort of difference that would never hold up against logic (and the court) should be abhorred.

The regulations that Masamichi alluded to reminded me very much of the "Jim Crow Laws" that no longer exist today, but the entrails (for lack of a better word) of the behaviors that engendered those laws can sometimes last for eons.
Ylee Da N00b wrote:No tail? So maybe not a foxgirl, but something else?
Who knows? She could be a catgirl. it's all speculation from me, of course, but you never know. She could also be hiding her tail somehow. We just don't know.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:55 pm
by Invisigoth
The laws in question are based on in universe realities. Chokage is the size of a small human woman but she can easily maul her former lover and there's little that can be done about it. Look at what Ashe did to her cellphone when she met Dr Gero to confront him about Junko.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 11:51 pm
by Roamer
Rapierman wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:33 pm
Roamer wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 12:01 am
I don't think we can yet say this involves racism - although you can make a good case based on those guidelines.
You're right, it's not actual racism. What I'm saying here is that the behaviors exhibited so far is similar to what we find in racism. Fred is basically giving us an essay on the pitfalls of human behavior in general through this particular strip. Discrimination and/or persecution of any kind based on any sort of difference that would never hold up against logic (and the court) should be abhorred.

The regulations that Masamichi alluded to reminded me very much of the "Jim Crow Laws" that no longer exist today, but the entrails (for lack of a better word) of the behaviors that engendered those laws can sometimes last for eons.
Ylee Da N00b wrote:No tail? So maybe not a foxgirl, but something else?
Who knows? She could be a catgirl. it's all speculation from me, of course, but you never know. She could also be hiding her tail somehow. We just don't know.
Similar, yes, I'll buy that for sure. The Jim Crow laws are a nice analogy. Not sure if she's a catgirl or not...her ears mostly point to the rear, but we've seen them (TTDP #1, P 5) pointing forward. The shape is frustratingly familiar. Some kind of marsupial?
Invisigoth wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 9:55 pm
The laws in question are based on in universe realities. Chokage is the size of a small human woman but she can easily maul her former lover and there's little that can be done about it. Look at what Ashe did to her cellphone when she met Dr Gero to confront him about Junko.
Ashe's cellphone was exactly what I was thinking about when Masamichi stated talking about the Code, as it seemed reasonable. (In some places you can still be prosecuted for assault with a deadly weapon if you're a black belt and punch somebody). Then he started talking about disfigurement and I was so startled I forgot that line of thought.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 11:53 pm
by Rapierman
Invisigoth wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 9:55 pm
The laws in question are based on in universe realities. Chokage is the size of a small human woman but she can easily maul her former lover and there's little that can be done about it. Look at what Ashe did to her cellphone when she met Dr Gero to confront him about Junko.
Regardless, there is the issue of equal rights, aka "equal justice under the law". Granted, this is Japan and not the USA, but such rights are supposed to be universally accepted per the UN.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 2:26 am
by Arent
Rapierman wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:33 pm
You're right, it's not actual racism. What I'm saying here is that the behaviors exhibited so far is similar to what we find in racism. Fred is basically giving us an essay on the pitfalls of human behavior in general through this particular strip. Discrimination and/or persecution of any kind based on any sort of difference that would never hold up against logic (and the court) should be abhorred.
Please don't drag my beloved megatokyo into left/conservative politics.

In truth, both sides are dishonest: The left downplays and actively supports racism and discrimination as much as conservatives do. If they were truly interested in such issues they would hold 'antiracism rallies' against IS or Hamas. And conservatives don't protest against right wing extremism. Both sides are biased.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 10:30 am
by Rapierman
Arent wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:26 am
Please don't drag my beloved megatokyo into left/conservative politics.
I never mentioned any political philosophy. What is morally right, just and ethical in my heart is what it is. Politics never played a part in this.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:47 am
by SpaceCobraJoe
Roamer wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 11:51 pm
Not sure if she's a catgirl or not...her ears mostly point to the rear, but we've seen them (TTDP #1, P 5) pointing forward. The shape is frustratingly familiar. Some kind of marsupial?
Looks to me like a Fennec fox, minus the bushy tail.
Fennec fox

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 7:11 pm
by Roamer
SpaceCobraJoe wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 3:47 am
Roamer wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 11:51 pm
Not sure if she's a catgirl or not...her ears mostly point to the rear, but we've seen them (TTDP #1, P 5) pointing forward. The shape is frustratingly familiar. Some kind of marsupial?
Looks to me like a Fennec fox, minus the bushy tail.
Fennec fox
I thought about that, but those don't point downwards the way hers can. Also, the vibe I get off her so far is anything but predatory. And I have seen that downward-sloping shape her ears take somplace before. Just can't recall it.

Re: [TTDP 0003] Sentencing Guidelines

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 9:58 pm
by Invisigoth
She's rather predatory....