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[1516] A New Story

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[1516] A New Story

Post by paarfi » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:45 am

Fred posted the new comic to his Patreon. He'll post it to the main site and elsewhere later today or tomorrow.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by paarfi » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:42 am

I'm not quite sure what to make of this. I like how Yaku seems to understand that it's Miho's story that is the problem, rather than Miho herself. But is this a good solution to the problem? I think there are two problems with Miho's story. First, it's not a happy story, with her tragic unloved death every time. And second, she's forced to live it.

If Yaku were somehow able to write Miho a happier story and make it stick somehow, Miho would still be forced to live it. It wouldn't be the real her, even if it was happy. This is very much what happened to Erika when she was an idol. I can't see Miho living that kind of fake happy any better than Erika did.

But we've also see that Magical Girls, Ninjas, and probably more who are superpowered by will of the fanboy horde, yet somehow are still happy. I think the difference is that they've been able to still be their real selves. We've seen from Ririka's comments that the anime adaptations of her, Meimi, Moeko, and the Lovelies were all different than their real selves, and somehow the horde was good with that.

Maybe that's what the real difference of being a Character Analogue is -- that Magical Girls, Ninjas, and such can maintain more of that separation, where it's much tighter for CAs. I'm not sure how a story from Yaku can fix that aspect of it.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Invisigoth » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:50 am

I think that you miss the point that Yaku isn’t concerned about the effect of the story on Miho so much as she wants a story that will make her mom happy even if she might be dabbing tears from her eyes.

Also, Lockhart is having to rewrite Kimiko’s script AND Piro is going to begin doing the art...

Hmmm....

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Rapierman » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:02 am

The best stories end with "....and they lived happily ever after."
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by cidjen » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:58 am

paarfi wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:42 am

But we've also see that Magical Girls, Ninjas, and probably more who are superpowered by will of the fanboy horde, yet somehow are still happy. I think the difference is that they've been able to still be their real selves. We've seen from Ririka's comments that the anime adaptations of her, Meimi, Moeko, and the Lovelies were all different than their real selves, and somehow the horde was good with that.
I think the difference here is, that Miho actually hates the Character that the Horde likes. Because it is so much unlike the life she actually led. I did not see a reaction like that from what Ririka was saying... Ririka looked like she was somehow dismissive or rather resigned-amused by the way her Character was written (this or her injuries were really affecting what she said then) (edit: just checked, she was still standing - but she's not scared of the fans finding out she was the Anchor - most she gets is 'please do not damage my love of the genre'); but Miho did express her dislike quite plainly. What's worse, she probably may have expressed this dislike/hate somehow for the Fanbase to know, and that's why her Fanbase turns into a Horde and hunts her.

OTOH it's been said about Moeko and Erika, that Moeko was in a come since BEFORE Erika gave her character a voice; It wasn't said how was that exactly correlated - if we could speculate, that Moeko fell into coma some time similar to Erika's accepting the voice role, or even when Erika's role was being written - then that sort of slots nicely here; Erika did not actually like some roles of Characters she was playing (see her exchange with Sayuri-san after Animate), I wonder if this was the case here?

This seems to slot together too : since Erika's role has been written so that Moeko's character is different than Moeko was, the Fanbase is giving life (or trying to) to something, that Moeko can't actually be... this again by the word of Ririka. But the story of Miho's character dying, imprints itself on Miho, because ... well who can't actually die? and the Fate found an outlet in Miho for this story, and it kept on going until Kimko relieved her...

Wouldn't that also slot nicely with what Largo feels about Erika's fanbase ? He gets that on some kind of bottom-of-his-soles feeling, that her Fanbase likes the Character she is not entirely convinced she wants to play, but does it anyway.

(I know I shouldn't post before seeing the new comic, but I couldn't stop myself)
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by paarfi » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:01 am

Invisigoth wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:50 am
I think that you miss the point that Yaku isn’t concerned about the effect of the story on Miho so much as she wants a story that will make her mom happy even if she might be dabbing tears from her eyes.
No, I'm concerned about how Yaku's actions are going to help in the larger sense (ie fixing Miho's problem), not in the narrow sense that Yaku has in mind (ie fixing what Yaku thinks is Mugi's problem).
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Also, Lockhart is having to rewrite Kimiko’s script AND Piro is going to begin doing the art...
Hmmm....
Yes, but will they coordinate those changes with the work of a 13yr old novice manga artist?
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by cidjen » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:10 am

And now I'm imagining a scene...

Piro and Kimiko at Lockart offices in the evening.

Kimiko just finished recording, Piro idles a bit before or after a difficult drawing.

There is no one else in the entire building, so they start 'making out' (her sitting on his lap and smooching mostly, with the romantic kind of kissing and embraces, there are after all other glass walled buildings and some of them may have NPC cameras pointed at them, so no porn possible, wandering hands are being put in their rightful places on her back and not any lower).

There is a slight disturbance with the papers on his desk, like a wind blows all the sheets on the floor, and when Piro opens his eyes, he sees Miho looking sheepish and red on her face, looking to a different direction than Yakugashi sitting beside her on the other side of his desk, with a teenager 'disgusting' face and the Ninjagrrl and Junpei standing cross-armed behind them.

Piro : 'GAH!'
Kimiko (turns around, with the cute frenetic panic expression) : '<GAH!>', rises slowly, tidies up her top and gets off his lap, and sits beside him, with arms crossed, eying the new guests. He puts his glasses back on.

Piro looking official : 'What do you want?'
Yakugashi : '<Can we speak in Japanese please ?>'
Piro : '<OK, what do you want then ?>'

(will probably add more when I actually see today's comic ;) )
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by HakuRyoku » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:35 pm

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by NinjaDefenestrator » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:11 pm

Ohhhh boy. Just how much does Yaku understand about how stories work? Cue Miho trying to explain and Yaku steamrolling right over her, which should be entertaining.

Also, Miho, yikes. The girl’s 13. That’s not how you speak to anyone over the age of six. How long has it been since Miho and Yakugashi last crossed paths?

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Teddy-Werebear » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:19 pm

A new story, Space Succubus Miho and the rocket ship blasting off for the Sun so the foul fiend can remain to the end of days... on vacation... yeah, that is the ticket. ;)

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Small Pink Mouse » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:25 pm

On the debit side - How many stories has Yaku written in the past and how likely is it that she will be good enough for her story to be "accepted" in place of the old one?

On the plus side - How many authors are in a position to get input and assistance from a very experienced character? o_O

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Olba » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:29 pm

Hauuu~ Yakugashi is such a precious little foxgirl!

Yakugashi is a two-tailed foxgirl, which gives her some amount of monster magic. I wonder if this is an application of that? Wouldn't surprise me if she could actually do something like this. What would surprise me is if her story is any good. I remember being a 13-year-old and writing stories, and let's just say that they weren't very good.

I think Miho's best option might be to quickly order a box of donuts and just sit down in silence. However, I expect that she's going to realize that Mugi was at the school, bring that up and piss off Yakugashi even more.

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by paarfi » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:41 pm

*turns the hose on Olba*
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Lingman » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:45 pm

I find myself wondering if after re-writing Miho's story, she is going to sprout another tail, to go with the new tale.

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by GreyWolfe » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:49 pm

So Yaku's Nen ability is "lovely ghostwriter"? Hehe..
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by garapagosu » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:51 pm

Fifty Shades of Miho...

Also, a southpaw foxgirl? Fred, you sly... No... Not gonna say it.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by GreyWolfe » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:02 pm

garapagosu wrote:
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Fifty Shades of Miho...

Also, a southpaw foxgirl? Fred, you sly... No... Not gonna say it.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Xavon » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:18 pm

Is it just me, or is her purse bigger on the inside?

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by S1arburst » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:54 pm

Here comes Yaku to save the daaaay!

I thought it was funny last strip when she unknowingly rescued Miho from ninjagirl's murderous dithering as she stomped in with her death glare. It's even funnier that she's here to 'rescue' Miho from her story just to make things better for her mom. While wearing the death glare. She's going to mess things up so bad. She'd totally go for Teddy-Werebear's story.

Of course, she's still a brat, the way she treat honorable ninja.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by GreyWolfe » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:01 pm

Invisigoth wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:50 am
Also, Lockhart is having to rewrite Kimiko’s script AND Piro is going to begin doing the art...
Piro's part in that hasn't been set in stone yet I don't believe. It's a potential story branch in it's infancy.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by eomdal » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:14 pm

If I recall Fred's descriptions of Megatokyo Kitsune in chat, (taken with much salt) a two-tail doesn't have enough power to distort reality; a Foxgrrl needs to be at least a three-tail to do that. Or does she intend to enlist a cousin?

Or grandma? Yikes. Inspector Sonoda will be working until he drops dead.

If I am mistaken, or if Fred was trolling, then this could mean that any named characters in Megatokyo can rewrite stories, even for powerful character analogues.

Double yikes. No wonder Stability agents are so uptight.
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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Invisigoth » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:39 pm

And it occurs to me that Yaku just took a top spot on TWB's enemies list since she's intent on changing MIho's story so that her story no longer makes her followers sad.

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Small Pink Mouse » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:13 pm

S1arburst wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:54 pm
Here comes Yaku to save the daaaay!

I thought it was funny last strip when she unknowingly rescued Miho from ninjagirl's murderous dithering as she stomped in with her death glare. It's even funnier that she's here to 'rescue' Miho from her story just to make things better for her mom. While wearing the death glare. She's going to mess things up so bad. She'd totally go for Teddy-Werebear's story.

Of course, she's still a brat, the way she treat honorable ninja.
I sincerely doubt Miho was in any danger. You don't talk like that to someone if you really plan to kill them. Given the part where ninjagirl says ow I doubt Miho was all that convinced she was in any trouble either because it seemed more like a "Quit teasing me! You aren't funny!" whack she gave ninjagirl then the sort of blow she'd deliver if she were really all that scared. ^_^

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by Liminaut » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:06 am

Yaku is writing the MT visual novel, so all the fanbois can obsess about getting to Miho's good end.

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Re: [1516] A New Story

Post by HakuRyoku » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:15 am

you make it sound like a bad thing... after all someone has to write the walkthroughs, so why not the plucky twin-tail.

besides, it cant possibly be any worse than what we'd write ourselves. :lol:
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