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Post by paarfi » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:24 pm

An article by JP of VNsNow on the MTVN Kickstarter.
http://vnsnow.com/the-folly-of-the-mega ... ual-novel/
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Post by Rapierman » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:55 pm

Paarfi, I don't know about you, but the article is a bit unfair to Fred, don'tcha think?
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Post by paarfi » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:36 pm

Rapierman wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:55 pm
Paarfi, I don't know about you, but the article is a bit unfair to Fred, don'tcha think?
It's not pleasant to read, and I do have a few quibbles, especially with some of what is said and implied in the final third. But I thought most of it was as reasonably fair-minded as could be expected for a project that has gone like this one has. This guy doesn't know Fred and only worked off of what had been posted publicly. But he obviously spent a lot of time reading what had been posted and putting that into the larger context of vn development, and that puts it light-years ahead of the typical "$300k and nothing to show for it WTF" kinds of critical posts.

I dunno. When projects don't go well, it's fair that they be criticized, hard as that can be to hear for the people involved and those who care about them. You hope that that criticism is at least informed, considered, and fair-minded. If this were Kotaku or similar sites with paid writers, I'd expect them to have contacted Fred directly and done other professional reporter kinds of things. But for a guy running a hobby site, I think this was, if not right in all respects, as informed, considered, and fair-minded as could be expected.
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Re: VNsNow

Post by Murren » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:50 pm

paarfi wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:36 pm
It's not pleasant to read, and I do have a few quibbles, especially with some of what is said and implied in the final third. But I thought most of it was as reasonably fair-minded as could be expected for a project that has gone like this one has. This guy doesn't know Fred and only worked off of what had been posted publicly. But he obviously spent a lot of time reading what had been posted and putting that into the larger context of vn development, and that puts it light-years ahead of the typical "$300k and nothing to show for it WTF" kinds of critical posts.

I dunno. When projects don't go well, it's fair that they be criticized, hard as that can be to hear for the people involved and those who care about them. You hope that that criticism is at least informed, considered, and fair-minded. If this were Kotaku or similar sites with paid writers, I'd expect them to have contacted Fred directly and done other professional reporter kinds of things. But for a guy running a hobby site, I think this was, if not right in all respects, as informed, considered, and fair-minded as could be expected.
I agree with all this. I thought a few of the things said in the last part were a little out of line (and I'm not talking about the part where he uses a certain "i" word, because I think that wasn't really directed toward Fred and was just more generally speaking) - he makes a few statements with a little too much confidence when it seems pretty clear that he's just guessing. Maybe his guesses are pretty well-reasoned, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're still incorrect despite that. I don't know, myself, but it just seemed pretty clear that he's guessing there.

But I found the rest of the article (the first 2/3 or so) to be very fair and informed.*

*Well, the only thing I disagree with in the first part is, where he makes the bold statement that the project will never get finished. In specific, I do not agree with the idea that there will never be a Megatokyo Visual Novel that is completed. However, in thinking about it more, I'm guessing that the writer of the article meant that the originally planned version of the visual novel, with all 7 promised character paths (or whatever it was), will not get completed with all of the originally planned content. I'm not really one to make bold predictions like that, so I still won't say I agree, but I will say that I think that prediction is pretty reasonable, (if he meant what I described above). But I will also say that I do believe that at some point, there will be a Megatokyo Visual Novel in some form completed. Even if it has far less content than originally planned.

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