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by iffy
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

Enjii. Hijoro. Chiyo. Michiko. Tama. Kameko. Lots of choices besides a leetmobile license plate name. :ph34r: :ugeek: :shock:
by iffy
Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

One might consider claims (that examples of Kimiko not being direct, calm, fair or honest with Piro are anywhere nearly as numerous, to the extent, or as impactful as those examples involving Miho) as those claims being jokes, from a more fringe standpoint, skewed, a trick, or otherwise not actually...
by iffy
Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:04 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

What makes it hard for me to extend that all the way to Miho "loving" Piro is the way she chose to end that relationship. The whole situation back during Endgames (both in the game and in the chat) seems unresolved in a lot of ways, and somewhat unclear in both Piro and Largo variously retelling it...
by iffy
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:02 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

Sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference between {things like slow, hesitant, unsure, self-conscious, tentative, worried} and disinterest. Still, things like 372, 613, 664, 953 might tell some of that part of that story. Whatever baggage Piro has isn't necessarily impactful on that in and of ...
by iffy
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

To IG's point, at least at the start of Endgames, before anyone knew anything about anyone had nothing to do with love, it was all apparently manipulation. Maybe there's something we don't know yet though. Or a whole lot of something. We might have an easier time of knowing what Kotone is going thro...
by iffy
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

That's going a tad too far IMO. Or you're being sarcastic here, I can't tell reliably. I don't think it's too far and I'm not being sarcastic. Although a bit flippant by saying it's nice, but that's in jest. There are a lot of things Miho might want to talk to Piro about, none of us know for sure w...
by iffy
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1521] Letting stuff happen
Replies: 87
Views: 13901

Re: [1521] Letting stuff happen

How much is Kimiko (who quit acting like Miho, which she apparently had been doing on purpose rather than being forced into it by story) herself. How much is Piro settling for what is rather than what he really wants, whatever those are. At the least, the two have been working on getting a collabora...
by iffy
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Deriving conclusions from perspective while things are ongoing. It kind of looks like a lot of things it could be, depending on how locked into things someone is about believing others do or must be believing it the same way they are. What else they might consider possible, rather than what they've ...
by iffy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Not at all ignoring that. Agreed. Certainly Kimiko was pretending to be, acting as, dying for, replacing Miho. Substituting for Miho. Portraying Miho, to those needing the proper story ending Miho's expected demanded required demise that Miho keeps not having. Except for all the main players who wer...
by iffy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Perhaps the key part of that is not answering the question "what sort of reaction does a usual person have when the psychic and physical link to their actress and their old on-line love interest gives them emotional and physical reactions as well" (since probably no usual person has an actual direct...
by iffy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

But it would be Miho's mind going ewww. A reaction more akin to that of the expected/perceived and actual company she's keeping, regardless of her physical age. (rather than the physical state itself is causing the reaction mental as well) Perhaps we should say that most of what Miho does isn't like...
by iffy
Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:57 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Because it isn't something 14 year old girls would do around boys or adults? Not that Miho is, but none of us having met an Analogue, in this sort of story environment or otherwise, who can tell for sure. Perhaps an MT example is more like the Asako option Yet that's not as much a reaction to becomi...
by iffy
Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

"It is futile to do with more things that which can be done with fewer, whenever possible substitute constructions out of known entities for inferences to unknown entities, when you hear hoof beats think of horses not zebras, nature operates in the shortest way possible, other things being equal sim...
by iffy
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:24 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Ah thanks, Ping thought Ed creepily testing her is a scenario in the Catalyst game, right. Which her reaction there the next day is vaguely remembering him, so seems she's not got too much of a notion. For Miho it still looks somewhat like she's somewhat entered a sort of young teenage girl scenario...
by iffy
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

On another note, Miho here seems almost reacting to cooties, in some way akin to as if she's never been physical, which is certainly impossible, isn't it? Although not being able to handle a type of feelings she's never experienced might suggest this is her first time out in reality actually interac...
by iffy
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Hmmmm. For the Dance of the Evils Miho referred to the zoned out people waiting for her return as the grieving horde. That isn't like now. Then the many seemingly large incongruities in stories brought about The Horde, masses of people from everywhere somehow psychically extranaturally appearing as ...
by iffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

We've got Miho the supranatural ur-example something or another out in the world when she's supposed to be in fiction, allegedly. Takes a heart attack (that she appears to have essentially given herself; it's her idea to take Piro on the demonstration after all), a pacemaker install, and is up and t...
by iffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:54 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1520] What I've been feeling
Replies: 84
Views: 13928

Re: [1520] What I've been feeling

Curious, no idea of what might happen if she let Kimiko die for her, no inkling Piro (who she clearly knew was there, having gotten him thrown out of the room) would be involved, is just now figuring out she'd been experiencing everything that has been happening today since Kimiko, who has been play...
by iffy
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1519] Everything to do with me
Replies: 72
Views: 18164

Re: [1519] Everything to do with me

Well who actually knows how much time did Miho spend alone after Junpei left, before Enji started changing her clothes? she totally could have dozed off for a bit. We don't actually know how long it takes to drive from the hospital to The Foxhole too. We know that Junpei brings Yakugashi to her aft...
by iffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: MegaTokyo Visual Novel
Topic: So, will it be ever delivered?
Replies: 36
Views: 8244

Re: So, will it be ever delivered?

Not that I'm Fred (I am not Fred) or that this is sufficient as to what is being asked (it is neither firm nor a commitment). But there was an update in the Kickstarter discussion page about two months ago. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fredrin/megatokyo-visual-novel-game/comments As far as k...
by iffy
Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1519] Everything to do with me
Replies: 72
Views: 18164

Re: [1519] Everything to do with me

Lots of things are possible between 1461 and 1513/1514. It's just not too convincing from reactions it's anything good. As far as that goes, in 1461 Kimiko doesn't appear to be in any calm mood, she's acting the tragic heroine professing her love just before she dies. Then also right in 1461 we also...
by iffy
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1519] Everything to do with me
Replies: 72
Views: 18164

Re: [1519] Everything to do with me

There don't seem to be any odd looks from Miho elsewhere while that broken glass car rescue is going on, not there during the initial conversations between Miho and whoever that really is. 1479, 1483... The other two though 1461 Miho in 7 and 8 is confused then revolted. To something happening exter...
by iffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1519] Everything to do with me
Replies: 72
Views: 18164

Re: [1519] Everything to do with me

Miho's reactions seem more like revulsion. What might be expected from people walking all over your grave when you're still alive. Or in thinking about what vis just said.
by iffy
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1519] Everything to do with me
Replies: 72
Views: 18164

Re: [1519] Everything to do with me

Yes it looks like once you start to have consumers paying attention to you and your portrayals, there appears no longer much if any control by the performers over what those consuming works think of the work or life, who is who and what is what. Which it would seem the first fan of Kimiko's was Piro...
by iffy
Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1519] Everything to do with me
Replies: 72
Views: 18164

Re: [1519] Everything to do with me

Oops yes the good catch was not 1461 6&7, but 7&8. Miho noticing and reacting to something important big odd (new, unsettling, eldritch, good, uncomfortable, melodramatic....) in the stories. But no, yes indeed, clearly Piro had realized already in 1460 panel 8 it was not Miho, all before Kimiko sai...