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by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1507] "Being Yourself"
Replies: 46
Views: 2477

Re: [1507] "Being Yourself"

I know, I agree — I was just teasing. I remember admiring the way Fred was already capturing emotions in his drawings back then — much like Yuki when she first saw Piro’s drawings. So you won’t catch me saying that Fred’s character drawings of the earlier MT years had blank expressions: I’m quite c...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

Something feels wrong about this sentence... At first. But then... Would the illusion be more complete if Piro did start doing CPR?... Or of there wasn't an awkward pause for button discipline? He acts 'in character' only as long as he didn't realize it's not Miho with a death wish, that he's looki...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

A couple things Masamichi has said about how things work in MT. unexploded ordnance hacked mercilessly short Yeah, Nintendo. They mentioned one in A Nice Day for Havoc . Ibara, he might be normal-person squishy, but nothing much apparently happened to him in haptic feedback . As far the other two, E...
by iffy
Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:27 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1507] "Being Yourself"
Replies: 46
Views: 2477

Re: [1507] "Being Yourself"

…like, maybe, the experience of Freds drawing skills advancing nearly seventeen years and 1401 comic posts?; ) Yep there is that, good point. But ignoring the tech-time shift. Forgetting the style itself or how it has changed. Compare like things, her around the 100s to others around the 100s. They...
by iffy
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1507] "Being Yourself"
Replies: 46
Views: 2477

Re: [1507] "Being Yourself"

It's not clear if Ping "cares" about her dimensions and accessory styles and colors, short of how a user would expect it. Also not clear if she was programmed initially at all for such reactions. She looks kind of blank when we first see her in 106, maybe just basic look/act human and non-H privacy ...
by iffy
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

But talking specifically about reliability I would say it is a difference in kind not degree. Okay, I do consider Ibara's reliability as not-well-established in the comic, primarily because I don't see much evidence of his competence (the evidence seems to point against competence in family matters...
by iffy
Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

Indeed. A few more trustworthy fully explained accurate "authoritative" titles and examples of what Miho is exactly. Not sure that's anywhere near arriving though. And (depending on one's perspective of course) there hasn't seemed to be anyone above our kindly game company crazies. Well, besides cor...
by iffy
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

No I mean "reliable/unreliable observer" in the technical sense, are we getting useful information out of him here (is the author using the character to convey things the author actually thinks, or on the contrary using him more for {f}red herrings)? How could we as audience ever be able beforehand...
by iffy
Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

Likely the Character Analogue thing is mostly related to how it's put in 1271, character types and character representations. Of course Little Red Riding Hood is just a set of clothes to put on for Halloween if you don't have a story going along with it, and if a physical manifestation of the intens...
by iffy
Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

Not that he isn't ultra sad and imbuing the characters in the drawings with that, but some of the events leading up to 768 something that comes from you might shed light upon what to expect or not from Piro. Putting emotions into drawings doesn't necessarily mean the artist has the same emotions or ...
by iffy
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

It seems at least likely that Yuki wouldn't necessarily know how to tell in others whatever differences there are between fear, unease, ambivalence, emptiness, sorrow, guilt, nostalgia, desperation, love, lust, longing, wistfulness, melancholy, affection, desire, etc. Can a young inexperienced magic...
by iffy
Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

For those who haven't been reading SD for a long time, and haven't gone back and read the last few chapters worth of threads in the archive, some people in the discussion would be very happy if the terrible mean evil horrible wicked soul destroying Miho was violently sent back to whatever dimensiona...
by iffy
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

On one hand, Miho's characters must die, apparently to keep the audiences happy, and in MT, to keep society itself stable; on the other hand, she herself is supposed to die here, which is either abnormal (the actress dying) or normal (this is just a character, not the actress); yet on that third han...
by iffy
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

Do Analogues have stories, or do stories have Analogues? One to one, one to many, or many to many. None of the above. If stories come about on their own in a world even without Analogues to create them, if imagination can exist without Muses to spark them, and so on, perhaps if a personification of ...
by iffy
Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

:ninja: Is Miho an Anthropomorphic Personification? Perhaps she's just an Unbuilt Trope. Or is that the same thing.... perspective-wise. This may not be valid much, but to copy something from TVT there are three tiers of three weights each that characters might potentially be in. Some in MT are pret...
by iffy
Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:58 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4609

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

hrrmm, another person wanting to solve.... ???? by going to the source of... something? How does this do what, for Mugi or Megumi or the situation? Did she actually get it into her head Miho is causing all this, and that Miho can fix it as well? Not necessarily surprising and not necessarily a good ...
by iffy
Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:51 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1505] I will take care of mom
Replies: 36
Views: 2477

Re: [1505] I will take care of mom

Oh, how delicate is somebody partially human, who has heard stories about the bad old days of murdering everyone around for greater power for yourself, and hardly seems shaken in the slightest by the conversations between her mother and aunt, or by all the conversations after ninja arrival. You know...
by iffy
Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

There often aren't many differences to straight up 'strong emotions' but there's usually some noticeable difference between 'calm and contented' and 'filled with adrenaline and ready to do grievous bodily harm'. Likewise there should be something noticeable about it when a number of people are in co...
by iffy
Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

I've probably re- re- written the same sorts of things so many times there can never be as much of it in the future as there was in the past. ;) As for the triangle, Largo Piro, Miho. Look at the stories the guys tell to Erika and Kimiko, other things that have been discussed since and probably are ...
by iffy
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:14 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1505] I will take care of mom
Replies: 36
Views: 2477

Re: [1505] I will take care of mom

Looks like the stage is almost set for a third-party intervention... Because we now have the complicated Miho x Piro x Kimiko situation, a vicious triangle - whatever any of those 3 might do or not do, will affect all 3 of them. Ah, but Miho is currently at a not necessarily so safe house, under th...
by iffy
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

Scarier maybe though, because when you turn something is still there, just not what you thought you saw? I'd say Miho's always lying about everything, but there's not enough information for it to be a lie. Even if there was, I don't necessarily think she is either aware of it or doing it on purpose,...
by iffy
Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1503] You two
Replies: 60
Views: 3893

Re: [1503] You two

I am beginning to see, what Miho meant by "it's what they are doing with it! they are assembling me! the real me! " hey look - and we are all doing it... all of us who are commenting /speculating about Miho ... it suddenly creeps me out ;) almost... but hey we're really doing it- look at it from th...
by iffy
Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1505] I will take care of mom
Replies: 36
Views: 2477

Re: [1505] I will take care of mom

The fox-people appear to know most all about Miho, the closest of anyone. Mugi knows Miho cut out, she's only just a bit wrong about Piro not being able to go too (perhaps normally he couldn't and only could because Ping). More importantly perhaps, they appear to be somewhat immune to the powers. (K...
by iffy
Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

If only we could fit Tohya into a trope or anti-trope with any certainty, or know if she even actually exists, or if anything she's ever said or done is anywhere near true. Sure though, even the most horrid disastrous OldFlame tropy situation might be brought screaming back out of the abyss. Trippin...
by iffy
Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5262

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

It doesn't appear anyone in the office is much aware of who is or isn't there.