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by iffy
Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1509] - "the floor is lava"
Replies: 85
Views: 3213

Re: [1509] - "the floor is lava"

It's not a sure thing we can apply any lessons from non-story elements to the story. Or that when somebody feels something, they're correct about what they think that something is. About the rest, the point is kind of that there's so many ways to interpret what we know (or think we know,) so many wa...
by iffy
Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1510] I guess I'll have to stop...
Replies: 106
Views: 3791

Re: [1510] I guess I'll have to stop...

Lots of things look like lots of other things, is this anywhere near what happened in Endgames or Online between Pirogoeth and Moh? Perhaps only in that there's some acting going on with Kimiko and Piro. But not much like in a game or chat, these two are after all both here, close together physicall...
by iffy
Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:43 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1509] - "the floor is lava"
Replies: 85
Views: 3213

Re: [1509] - "the floor is lava"

Just rethinking over this who is still or ever was in love (or anything close to it) or not question. For the original questions, it's certainly possible one was "in love" with the other, and or the other direction. Her being his idea (or drawing from photo) of the sick girl locked away in disgrace ...
by iffy
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1510] I guess I'll have to stop...
Replies: 106
Views: 3791

Re: [1510] I guess I'll have to stop...

There's a whole lot of underoverestimating going on here, and of course she's not been acting like Kimiko, and certainly Piro is still acting the same way that's made everyone else give up in some degree of disgust. Most recently Megumi with her go have tea with your body pillow you're not going to ...
by iffy
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1509] - "the floor is lava"
Replies: 85
Views: 3213

Re: [1509] - "the floor is lava"

Yeah Piro totally crushed Largo's face and hospitalized him because he has absolutely no feelings at all for Miho Piro totally performed heroic levels of CPR to keep Miho alive long enough for her to make it to surgery because he feels nothing at all for Miho Piro totally charged into a mudder fusk...
by iffy
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v4

Some of Dom's actions after telling Piro he has to choose are a matter of interpretation. Dom going out to deal with the NPC intervention seemed more like shooting at them to scare them then going outside to keep them away etc. It's not Ed after all. (Or perhaps whatever free pass the 'game company ...
by iffy
Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v4

Dom didn't appear to have a side, or care what Piro decided, and never threatened Piro directly. From the wording, the bad story end Dom thinks it is he thinks is really bad, and he seemed to almost be trying to stop Piro from getting it. There's not much reason to think Dom wasn't still friendly to...
by iffy
Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1262 Flashback] What become of Piro's old laptop ?
Replies: 5
Views: 247

Re: [1262 Flashback] What become of Piro's old laptop ?

I believe nobody on forum came to a conclusion from comic about who if anyone grabbed it or not. Yutaka was the last one with it? Had Mugi or somebody else went and got it? Is it buried under rubble? Destroyed? Sort of like whatever became of the Necrowombicon. Or if any of those questions (or answe...
by iffy
Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:54 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1509] - "the floor is lava"
Replies: 85
Views: 3213

Re: [1509] - "the floor is lava"

The short kinda thing is that we don't really know how Piro feels about anyone, but he appears to be avoiding everyone. And in a way avoiding everything. He's more interested in whatever he's doing whyever he's doing it than he is becoming something else, be that a famous artist, a returning travele...
by iffy
Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v4

In the flow of "things happening" what the ultimatum was isn't so important, it was that Dom told Piro something like 'so and so or else'. However that was supposed to work out with what was going on and who was involved. For what the demand was, it was basically that Piro select a story path, some ...
by iffy
Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1509] - "the floor is lava"
Replies: 85
Views: 3213

Re: [1509] - "the floor is lava"

Given how young many people in MT appear, our decades or centuries old Irish goddess, or mistaking Meimi for Yuki, and the like. Many of us including myself are tending to believe that's Junpei's grandmother, as he mentioned in 1471, but quite a bit more helpful than teasing him. Like with Meimi a l...
by iffy
Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v4

Getting it all short and small is a task with so much going on! Like my failure here at briefly combining two paragraphs of things above that interweave at about the same time. Overlapping times, are an ugh to try and handle. Miho in clerk guise enters the store from the flat. After Dom gives Piro a...
by iffy
Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v3

Right, Kimiko's POV is one thing. There is a cause/effect (the door quickly closing and a huffing that stops) at the time Kimiko pushes Miho. Maybe Kimiko noticed the huffing, but didn't notice it stopped. But in hindsight there's blame and guilt and her sense she 'did something.' Yet still, we know...
by iffy
Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1508] Somewhere we haven't gone before
Replies: 59
Views: 2225

Re: [1508] Somewhere we haven't gone before

We don't really know how much of what kind if any of Ping's original programming in any one or more areas is still intact in the original ways, and not changed around in perhaps some of the same ways her physical form hass. There have been lots of things, like Largo's modifications, interfacing with...
by iffy
Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v3

Kimiko does push Miho into a door and Piro does arrive and ask questions. But Kimiko's push doesn't cause Miho's heart to stop in 1406, and the conversation doesn't cause Miho's heart to stop in 1407, and Piro's questions do not cause Miho's heart to stop in 1408. Apparently much stress and a bad he...
by iffy
Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v3

Kimiko shoving Miho against the door may have made Miho's anxiety and huffing get much more worse much more fast. Or was just a bit of straw piled up against more and more. But no, Miho has been getting more and more frazzled all day, with The Horde not making anything nearly any better, and being p...
by iffy
Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1508] Somewhere we haven't gone before
Replies: 59
Views: 2225

Re: [1508] Somewhere we haven't gone before

Ah, so indeed that was correct, just another stupid client was not her reaction in panel 9 of 1507. While it's likely true to at least some extent that there's self-justification and pretend and like-dislike mixed with real all going on, and Junko mentioned iirc to Largo a while back she had to diss...
by iffy
Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1507] "Being Yourself"
Replies: 46
Views: 2331

Re: [1507] "Being Yourself"

There might be no better way to have Piro not win and not lose. The primordial cyberfoil vanishes back into the historic mists from whence she arrived. The art team partner romance lady blends into the story-absorbing simulacrum machine. Which, that morphing Kimiko and Ping into one entity would be ...
by iffy
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1507] "Being Yourself"
Replies: 46
Views: 2331

Re: [1507] "Being Yourself"

We can see it now. Young girl with magical powers thinks game playing fan boy and ancient goddess are an item, but in reality a waitress with some acting chops and a plot-absorbing robot become the ancient goddess, who can finally find the mortality she has been searching for, trolling MMORPGs looki...
by iffy
Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v2

How much detail depends on how much big picture really, depends on what's appropriate or applicable for the use. A fairly detailed almost plot transcript, a few paragraph summary of important happenings, a few sentence synopsis of plot points, or even a sentence about something important in 10-20 co...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v2

The head mask thing of horror and evil bounces down the stairs in 1312 (which we can see lying on the floor in 1316). There was a crash in the front of the store, no boom, no flaming wreckage. No concussive effect, Piro's like what was that noise, Miho's like you don't want to know. (Although appare...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: Fan-made Summary - Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v5
Replies: 27
Views: 979

Re: [fan contribution] Story - chapter 11 : Remanence v2

It's not so much 'explosion destroys first floor of store', it was Yuki slamming into Yutaka at MG speed ramming him through the shelves wall etc, whatever knocks down part of that part and front of the store, as well as damaging Yutaka. See panels 4-8 of 1312 and panel 1 of 1316 Seems like a good t...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1507] "Being Yourself"
Replies: 46
Views: 2331

Re: [1507] "Being Yourself"

I know, I agree — I was just teasing. I remember admiring the way Fred was already capturing emotions in his drawings back then — much like Yuki when she first saw Piro’s drawings. So you won’t catch me saying that Fred’s character drawings of the earlier MT years had blank expressions: I’m quite c...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1504] It wasn't for me
Replies: 98
Views: 5053

Re: [1504] It wasn't for me

Something feels wrong about this sentence... At first. But then... Would the illusion be more complete if Piro did start doing CPR?... Or of there wasn't an awkward pause for button discipline? He acts 'in character' only as long as he didn't realize it's not Miho with a death wish, that he's looki...
by iffy
Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Story Discussion
Topic: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness
Replies: 95
Views: 4369

Re: [1506] Ninja vs Precociousness

A couple things Masamichi has said about how things work in MT. unexploded ordnance hacked mercilessly short Yeah, Nintendo. They mentioned one in A Nice Day for Havoc . Ibara, he might be normal-person squishy, but nothing much apparently happened to him in haptic feedback . As far the other two, E...