Prometheus

Went to see this on opening day this afternoon. It's been massively hyped as a 'prequel' to the original Alien, but it is basically a different type of film. Mark Kermode rated it as 7.5 out of ten - it being the kind of film that would get a mathematically precise score - and I kind of agree. It's good, but doesn't compare even remotely to the impact that the original Alien had.

The film is not meant to be a part of the original Alien's narrative, although it is set in the same universe (licencing issues?). It's not really comparable in feel to that series to begin with - there are scenes that pay obvious homage, but the script focuses on more broader issues of origins and identity. In that sense it is closer to 70s scifi short stories and even a few of the Alien graphic novel storylines.

This was my fundamental problem with the film going in and coming out; basically the plot is built around the concept of Erich von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods, within which aliens came to ancient earth and founded the human race. Over the following centuries they guided human development, leaving signs of their presence that ultimately lead to the crew of the Prometheus following clues to a distant planet (NOT LV-246). This is a really stupid theory that the film sort of handwaves as being true in some really stupid ways, or simply doesn't discuss. ("This disproves Darwinism!" "Yeah, I guess it does.") It's a high concept movie, and does reasonably well in telling a story with that as the (accepted) premise, but it is rather awkward.

Setting wise, the visuals are very impressive etc. etc. I'm not sure why this is worth boasting much about as the original film, in Remastered form, is the best looking science fiction film I've ever seen and doesn't use CG as this one does (excessively).

Focusing on the characters: Most, it has to be said, are pretty forgettable. The standout actor is definitely Michael Fassbender, whose android David is both charming and inhuman. Noomi Rapace is visually striking as Shaw, but her character's accent is very odd; she's meant to be English (her father certainly is) but she has a very strong and unexplained accent. There's a standout scene in the middle of film involving her character that will probably be much discussed, but is actually pretty derivative. It seems to be a splicing of a scene in Alien3 and from a graphic novel storyline, Alien Hive. The rest of the crew are there solely to die in various gory (or stupid) ways.

The most jarring distinction between this and the original series of Alien films is that no one has regular, boring conversations about pay and pensions and so forth - they either react directly to the situation they are in or speak on broad cosmic levels. It's also not terribly clever; I know the first film gave us 'molecular acid' but this one is een worse in its ignorance of DNA - approaching creationist levels of denial. Yet the film is also oddly reticent about discussing religion - Shaw's crucifix is a plot point and David's lack of a 'soul' is also considered key, but it's not explicitly developed and doesn't really come to much. Had the characters been strongly religious this could have been a better plot direction (originally Alien3 was going to be set on a monestery world).

MASSIVE SPOILERS!

I mentioned CG being an issue with the film before; but seriously, fuck the monsters in this film. They include a penis that ejaculates acid ("How is that a 'she'?"), Dr Manhattan, the squid baby from the first Men In Black, the Kraken from Pirates of the Caribbean, the monster from The Thing, the leeches from Slither. Some, all or none of these are directly related to each other, and they all look frankly rubbish.

There's a final shot of an alien that is the most direct reference to the original xenomorph - but neither the planet nor the alien have any connection to the original series, and the presence of the Engineers is specifically established as being nothing special there, so it's ultimately a bit pointless. Similarly pointless is the apparent set up for a followup - the survivors are hardly a dynamic duo.

Didn't read the above post, don't even want a whiff of spoilers. I expressed some reservations in the OLD Prometheus thread we had but now I'm a little more excited based on the ads. REEEeeRUURgHHSCH! REEEeeRUURgHHSCH!!

This post has been edited by Lain of the Wired on Jun 1 2012, 09:04 PM

Lucky UKns :{

"In that sense it is closer to 70s scifi short stories and even a few of the Alien graphic novel storylines."
Sounds good to me. Was the 3d worthwhile or not? (I wish they would do 3d without cg.)

I'm kind of glad I read part of the spoilers but imma sissy. :/

This post has been edited by Meina on Jun 2 2012, 07:44 AM

That's what the structure of the story made me think of. The first two Alien films were built on well-established genres in terms of story, this was a little less focused and somewhat more self-indulgent (in my opinion).

Couldn't tell you - I hate 3D so I saw it in regular... There are a few scenes that would probably be quite impressive in 3D (in 2D they are rather silly).

So...it's a film whose main fault is that Alien fans are expecting Alien and not getting Aliens? No, seriously.

It would have been a significantly better film if it hadn't had those connections at all, to be honest (Resurrection was slavish in its references to its precursors, to ill effect). It uses the Alien references like they were leftover props however, and the resulting effect is somewhat discordant. It's good that they tried to do something different, but that doesn't mean the end result is objectively going to be good as well.

There are also other problems which aren't anything to do with it not being an Alien film, although these are things (concept, writing, characterisation, creature design, special effects, lighting...) that the first two Alien films at least did very well.

This post has been edited by Kegluneq on Jun 7 2012, 08:35 AM

OK saw it in iMax 3D, totally worth it. Even minor scenes looked great, they went all out. This film is disgusting. Keg's right about a lot, but this movie aimed high and the aesthetic is really different from Alien and Aliens. Some poor dude had a medical emergency but left on his own legs. This movie was reaally stressful, more than most, but it was very worthwhile.


SPOILERS
Even though the title is Greek, the idea behind it is kind of Gnostic. This is the kind of whimsical scifi I don't usually find is done even halfway satisfactorily and I kind of liked it a lot for that. I dont think there will be a sequel like Keg said. Its also vague how the aliens eventually get to have queens and their lifecycle, or whether Noomi Rapace makes it to the home planet. In a sense it is disappointing because the film follows the structure of the original movie, albeit more viral outbreak than srial killer, but still.

This post has been edited by Meina on Jun 8 2012, 08:10 AM

It also works well as a Scientology fable.

^^o u~

I dont know why Tom Cruise didnt get in on it then. His loss. Maybe we'll hear that he accepts it as canon?

What was most disappointing about this film is that the structure followed the first film and that the monsters werent better. It doesnt seem like Geiger did any new work.

This post has been edited by Meina on Jun 8 2012, 08:09 AM

Yeah, this. The last monster was probably the most obvious homage, but it still looked bad compared even to the body suit Alien of the first film. The squid monsters may have been an overt reference to Lovecraft, but still looked too fake and CG. The original Alien was much better for the cosmic horror angle.

The other big problem is that it’s really bad. That's my take anyway, don't want to step on anyone's toes who liked it. Maybe I just didn't get it. Spoilers below.

So yeah, maybe I just didn't get it. Yes, it was marketed as being like Alien and is not like Alien. Which was disappointing, but I got over that pretty quickly and was willing to accept it for what it was. But it doesn’t stand on its own either.

None of the ideas in them movie made much sense. They conflate religion and science in strange ways. Not to start some giant discussion about the relation between the two, but conversations in this movie almost literally proceed in this way:

"My research has led me to believe this is true and I’m here to find out if it is."

"Oh yeah? How do you KNOW it’s true though?"

"I guess you could say I have FAITH in it."

What?

The only explanation is that in this movie religion and science form some kind of phalanx representing "interest in finding out the origin of life" that is contrasted with... what, I don’t know. Since the film repeats the basic Alien setup, the only people these religious scientists can clash with are the "just here to do my job, ma’am" roughnecks on the ship and a few other scientists who are also not very interested in what’s going on. Basically, only these two weirdo archeologists who are in love are interested at all in the most important discovery in the history of mankind, and everyone else is bemused or scornful of this unnatural interest they have. Why is that? It would make sense if everyone just thought their theories were nutty and not worth traveling through space to follow up on, but the other characters’ aren’t interested even when the goofballs are RIGHT. Not that these guys are pros. They screw around with the alien head they find and destroy it and then go about their business like it's no big deal, even though it's a huge deal.

Only Charlize Theron (looking mighty fine btw) suggests some kind reason for her hostility to the mission in a short speech, but that seems to be mostly because her old man believes for no apparent reason that these aliens will be able to prolong his life. Also, his appearance in totally fake looking form is one of the many random and crazy things that happens, giving the film its "awkward" feel Keg mentioned. Also, the surgery machine with the crane game claw.

There are some interesting ideas at play here – they just couldn’t do anything with them. It’s neat that in many ways the movie is a perfect counterpoint to Alien. There the creature was alien in both noun and verb sense, a totally inscrutable force of nature, and Ripley had the right idea by basically wanting to run away/kill it. Here the aliens are familiar, and the heroes want to connect with them. But these aliens want to kill us anyway, and also there are inscrutable alien monsters around too. So basically, don’t go looking around the universe for shit?

Fussing this much about the story would seem like a waste of time if it was an action thriller, but it’s not. No action, no suspense, no scary noise. This is all there is. Wasn’t a fan.


This post has been edited by Lain of the Wired on Jun 9 2012, 12:07 AM

Why in the name of the Engineers was Guy Pearce cast? It's hard to take the wizened old man look seriously when he has the body mass of a pro athlete.

It felt like there was a proper suspense horror film going on in the background at times. The two scientists left behind during the storm (contrived lol) die horribly, and no one really seems to care. The flight crew choose to stay with the captain - why? They've had no characterisation, beyond that retarded bet, to explain why they should want to die for any reason other than plot convenience.

This post has been edited by Kegluneq on Jun 9 2012, 02:28 AM

So many things wrong with this movie... I really wanted to like it too, especially since I loved the original Alien movie. Will Spoiler-text with the rest:

First and foremost, there's no explanation for the guy at the beginning drinking the black alien goo and then going to pieces, unless that's meant to explain mankind's "birth" on the planet, with the humanoid alien's DNA mixing to form the first vestiges of life...

The movie seriously couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a high-handed atheist/highbrow movie or a faith-focused movie. Keg got it right: if they wanted to really hit this out of the park, they should have made the crew hella religious or something, to juxtapose nicely with the more science-minded archaeologists. Instead, everyone just seems to be emo; going around scoffing, saying, "Wow, that's SO dumb."

The shitty makeup on Guy Pierce was pretty LOL. Are there seriously not enough old male actors who can pull off a passable British accent that you have to have a young guy with OBVIOUS old-man makeup on? I mean, fuck, was John Hurt taking a sabbatical or something?!

Noomi Rapace is definitely no Sigourney Weaver. Her accent was weird. Her character made no fucking sense. Ohey, I just barbequed my husband/lover and had a squid baby taken out of my womb, but I'm going to go help the fuckers that did it to me anyway?

Both the (forgettable) scientists were trying for indifference but really just came across as completely unnecessary character types. Also, they were fucking stupid, and really couldn't act to save their lives.

However, I seriously see a meme coming out with a photo of the geologist screaming I FUCKING LOVE ROCKS.

Yes, cubby, I get that you love rocks, but give me a reason to care about whether or not you live or die...

Hey there little fella. OMG it's squeezing me, haha. LOL my arm broke. OMG it's in my suit. Shitty acting is shitty.

Charlize Theron won a FUCKING OSCAR and it shows with her small interaction with her "Father", but even that was completely nonsensical and had nothing to do with anything... we have no explanation as to why she has these feelings toward her father, other than OMG DIE ALREADY SO I CAN BE IN CHARGE. The way she dies is both hilariously anticlimactic and strangely appropriate given the amount of overall influence she had on the picture.

...and wtf was up with the two guys with the pilot? They were told fuck-all about anything going on with the black shit on the alien ship, but when the captains like, I'ma fly the ship into the other ship yo, they're like YAY SUICIDE~ \o/

The one iota of talent in this picture is Michael Fassbender who fucking knocks the android David out of the park. His innocent indifference disguises a much darker agenda, and the scene with the drink and the medical pod are more than a little unnerving.

All in all, this picture was trying for this thought-provoking epic about mankind's origins and God, but really completely missed the boat.

Prometheus was disappointing in that it had all the makings to be an EXCELLENT movie, but then just fell flat. I would have paid matinee price to see it, but paying full price made me feel a little ripped off. That said, the visuals were spectacular for the most part.

Oh man. So for the first like 30 minutes I was like "So fucking PRETTY" and having a sci-fi gasm. It feels like forever since we've had a movie with all this design work put into it and not just random CGI gears spinning around.

...and then the plot got moving. Small text!

Okay, so. I know it's a movie so they're not going to dig for a month, but I was honestly more horrified with the LAWL SCIENCE than any of the body horror (and that shit was giving me all kinds of jibblies, so that's saying something). So we show up and David just starts pokin' buttons. Okay, I guess he's gone rogue. Should be interesting what kind of drama this provokes from all the professionals that the robot is just randomly interacting with all this crazy alien tech and not running ANYTHING by them or translating anything. Or... they could all just grab shit and touch it and eat it and whatever. That makes sense too. And while they're taking all these intuitive leaps, they REFUSE to make the simplest fucking connections. GEE, THE VIDEO SHOWED THEM RUNNING AWAY AND WE TRIGGERED IT WITH OUR PRESENCE. MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND IN JUST A CAMERA OR SOMETHING AND TRY TO STOP TURNING SHIT ON. No no, let's just take off our helmets because breathable air is totally the same thing as "no poisonous spores or cancer causing particles in the air."

Okay fine, so we've got the geologist to map the area and the biologist to examine any organic stuff we find. Good so far. Except the geologist wants to leave? Okay, fine as long as his "pups" are mapping that's fine. And he took the biologist with him because of a dead body. Umm, wtf was the biologist there for if NOT dead bodies??? Fine, see you guys back at the ship. LOL WE GOT LOST. Umm... you drew the fucking map how did YOU get lost??! Fine, just be careful. LOL AN ALIEN CREATURE, ALLOW ME TO APPROACH IT LIKE IT'S A FUCKING PUPPY DOG. Er, that shit wouldn't fly on an expedition to the rain forest, wtf are you doing with an ALIEN? Are you brain damaged? What about "attack posture exactly like a fucking cobra" makes you think "derp let me pet it"? And then once the inevitable attack finally happens (the penis snake was actually quite generous with giving them time to get away), the other dude is just kinda watching the guy get his arm broken in half. "If it's not a rock, I don't care dude, lol." Oh and then he falls into the melty acid lake of doom (???). Hey engineers, why does the acid lake run right through the weapon storage room? *engineer snaps someone's neck in response to query*

Quick escape back to the ship in our Halo 3 Mongooses! Remember this connection, it will keep coming back...

Back to robot. Nothing to touch and/or ruin on the ship, whatcha gonna do now? Lol, lemme introduce this alien thingy to one of the two main guys on the ship to see what happens. Because umm, choose your own adventure. a) He's insulted me, so I hate him? b ) purely to see what happens (and I picked the main guy instead of cannon fodder because ???)? c) to find out why I was made (????) d) for the lulz. I went with d. Still, Fassbender tears this shit up, despite the amount of sense it does or does not make. I like how the earlier model robots were just blatantly homicidal monsters so Bishop is a clear upgrade.

So we're back on the ship and woops, it all goes to shit amusingly fast. And when they come back, apparently containment protocol is "expose everyone to stuff" or "apply (Halo 3) flamethrower to affected individual". No in between. And now a question. How many parallel tracks are going here? Was Dr. Gonnabiteit growing an octopus in his belly like his knocked up girlfriend? Was he going to disintegrate into DNA like the guy from the opening (the effects to his body were visually similar)? Or was he going to turn into a Resident Evil Tyrant like Mr. moron from earlier (I forget if it was acid face or penis swallower who turns...)?

Doesn't matter, it's time for the rather intense surgery scene! I have to admit it's pretty nice to actually get this bit since it was proposed in pretty much every Alien sequel and even AvP if I remember right... And again, wtf surgery unit. In Trauma Center, we put the foreign matter in a tray of some kind. If that was broken glass, would you just be wiggling it inches over the patient's gaping wound? And everybody is pretty cool with what just happened, strangely. Sorry for trying to freeze you with a monster in your abdomen, but it all worked out in the end, right? Let's go back to the ship, it has worked SO WELL the last few times!

We woke up the dude! Oops, he's a murder machine. Oh well. Seriously the bridge crew has NO REACTION to this alien giant being a murderous dude who immediately starts powering up the ship. Their expressions read "man, what a waste of time. Oh well, I guess we'll leave, but there's no real hurry or problems atm." And then the hilarity from the Penny Arcade comic and what you guys said about the copilots. Shaw rolls like THREE TIMES and she's out of the reach of the rolly death ship, but this is far beyond the brain power of poor Charlize Weylon.

So yeah. Visually and from a tension forming standpoint, I enjoyed it. I thought many of the actors did a great job... with what they were given. Like David in particular was just fun to watch. But the writing was just crap on a crap sandwich baked in a shitbrick oven. Decide on a theme, don't grab 10 from a bag. Have the characters act appropriately to their backgrounds, don't just have them do the dumbest fucking thing that will make the plot lurch forward. Don't ASSUME that motivations and reasonings can go unsaid. This is not "deep" or "complex" it is "full of plot holes and impossible to analyze in any real way." Finally, in a horror scenario, it's generally a bad idea to have the entire crew be strangers. This further hampers the already reduced time we have to identify with them since they don't even identify with each other.

And after all that, STILL better than every Alien thing since Aliens.

I haven't seen AvP, but I really thought Alien3 and even Resurrection were more honest to the series :/ I mean, it's great that they tried for a more classic sci-fi feel with this film, it just didn't really come off at all.

More honest in what way? Alien 3 immediately cheats the rules established for facehuggers in 1 and 2 and then shits all over 2 just for kicks basically. And then it's not particularly scary or exciting. GOOD JOB. Resurrection is basically crap from start to finish. There's ZERO tension in the entire movie, Ripley is acting shittily, what's her face has no business being in the movie, and various other problems culminating with that THING at the end.

Prometheus hit the tension and fear aspects pretty dang good. The creatures are different, but that's on purpose. Finally, it's the first movie since Aliens to say something NEW about that world instead of just regurgitating the leftovers of 1 and 2 in a different format.

3 was the first Alien film I actually saw, so I'm a bit prejudiced in that regard. Certainly on rewatching it, the special effects were hoaky as hell. However, I think it did a pretty good job of recapturing the atmosphere of the first film, the concept of the dog-alien was pretty cool, and the chase-through-the-tunnels scene at the end was pretty awesome first time round.

Shitting over 2 for kicks - I know a lot of the fanbase were upset about the loss of Newt and Hicks (who were renamed as Billie and Wilks in the graphic novels), but really, it's an existential horror story. That it has such a bleak beginning (...middle, end) was pretty appropriate for the series.

Pretty much agreed, but I don't think it ever aimed to be much more than a mindless shitty film. It has far less memorable good stuff than 3, but at least it's not offensively stupid like Prometheus.

Yes, it was. Now try telling us what those new things were without crying.

Trying new things was and is laudable - it's good that Aliens was a very different film to Alien, for instance. But Prometheus simply doesn't do a good job of it. It's Twilight in space; stupid people do stupid unconnected things for no good reason, it looks reasonably pretty, and there are monsters involved.

...Really? I found it almost obsessed in its lack of any tension whatsoever. Things happen at a glacial pace, and don't really seem to relate to each other. The monsters are derivative and look utterly ridiculous.

Well, I didn't see this, but caught some stuff on YouTube.

What the hell mang? What the hell?

So the "alien", "foreign", "other-worldly" design of the Space Jockey was just some bald white dude in a helmet?

...

Urg.

Spoiler: WE'RE THE ALIEN.

Literally.

I liked it, but I did not love it. My favorite sequences were David dancing in the map room,(pretty much any scene with David in it, actually) and the dust storm. I think a movie whose storyline hook is answering the questions of human origin should be more forthright in its presentation; explanations were needed but were not given, which was irritating; the story needed resolution, not sequel baiting.

It had some intense moments. People were freaking out, especially at the worm and birth sequences, but I was a little bummed out that the horror took precedence over the sci-fi.

This post has been edited by daesim on Jun 18 2012, 04:42 PM

Honestly (as someone already asserted) it was like the movie just couldn't decide what it wanted to be:

If it wanted to be an introspective "What does it all mean, man?" style take on humanity and where we come from in a pseudo-atheist sci-fi manner, then it should have had the characters be better developed to question themselves, their faith, etc.

Instead, the half-assed connection between Rapace's father's cross and the I BELIEVE BECAUSE I BELIEVE horseshit...

If it wanted to be a body horror terror-fest, it should have had more of the similar facehugger type behavior with the worm critters or something, with other people getting infected, or David spreading the virus around... or something...

Although they did "doitrite" by having Rapace effectively gut herself to remove the squid...

If it wanted to be more focused on the medical science fiction of genetics and similarities therein, it could have had an interesting religion vs. science competition between the archaeologists and the "scientists", which is a term I use loosely given the I LOVE ROCKS Cro-Magnonism of the Geologist and the milqutoast Biologist...

Really, this movie was an aberration. It's truly unfortunate that someone like Fassbender has to carry this around on his resume, given the incredible acting in Shame...

Obligatory Red Letter Media

Hey, I don't especially want to shit on your parade and I love every other movie Fincher has done pretty much but... I can't bring myself to like any aspect of 3. The plot is shit, the acting is meh, and the fear is just not there. NOTHING in 3 compares to the "Dallas in the air vents" or "Aliens approaching from ?" scenes from Alien/Aliens respectively. The concept of the dog alien was... okay but they didn't actually give us any distinct traits for it besides "it looks sort of different" and "it can resist being melted??" Of course, any talk about where the aliens come from in 3 immediately runs into the movie's biggest problem. Oh yeah, one facehugger implanted on both Ripley and a dog without dying. Also it snuck into the ship despite the ship being nowhere near any of the facehuggers and Ripley torching all the eggs. Because umm fuck Aliens, that's why.

Meh. Why not let Ripley ride off into the sunset and terrorize some other poor sap for 3? There was no more lessons to learn or themes to impart by taking a massive (and canonically impossible) dump on her well earned happy ending. Other than "if you're in a franchise with shit owners, you WILL have your character destroyed by the end, no exceptions."

I'm pretty sure Resurrection is MORE dumb than Prometheus. By a lot. For starters, having an idea (ONE idea) automatically makes Prometheus smarter...

A new model android that was even more homicidal and wonderful (yay!), other dangerous alien lifeforms besides the Xenomorphs, a dick race of creator humanoid aliens. Nope, no crying.

Mur, no do not do this. "Twilight" is not code for "a bad thing I didn't like." Now you sound like the people calling The Amazing Spider-Man Twilight because... Peter has correct-to-the-time-period/age hair? Because he's in love with a girl? Because umm... Twilight has shit effects, things happen for very obvious reasons (the characters are all stupid, shallow people), and I'm gonna laugh if you call Twilight vampires "monsters".

I wish it had a glacial pace. You and I watched a very different movie. It starts like Jurassic Park (we made a discovery... BAM we're there). And they JUST land before they go in. And then one group is being killed while the other is being infected... the pacing was actually very solid, probably too fast honestly. You're letting your dislike for reasonable elements color and lend untruths to things that aren't supportable. The monsters are derivative... of dicks and vaginas. I actually don't see a lot of that type of monster design outside of hentai, so in terms of similar moves, I'd call it creative (if not the best creative direction). More correct criticisms (which you have already made) are the plot wonkiness in general and characters just being really all over the map and the major themes just being left hanging the entire movie and never really touched again.

Finally, yeah Red Letter Media completely nails it. Really there's nothing else to say after the long version of their video. The less chubby guy basically has my opinion of the movie exactly.

Yeah, it would require some kind of Alien egg-layer to have been both on board the spaceship and off-screen for a period of time. That is an unfillable plot hole.

My memory of Alien3 is hazy, but I'm thinknig primarily of things like the lighting and atmosphere. I think the 'fear' aspect must be totally subjective, because I did not get out of Prometheus what you did in that regard.

'The universe is arbitrary and shitty' is a pretty appropriate lesson. Maybe queen facehuggers are just different? (I thought the character of Newt was pretty stupid though so I wasn't too upset at her dying, retrospectively.)

Resurrection also had second-generation androids, which are pretty cool in concept.

Therein lies the rub. David was pretty cool but wasn't any more dickish than Ash was. The new aliens were extremely inconsistent - there were squid monsters (obvious and awful CG), the worm things (surprise lizard penis! You think that's a she?), the...Thing monster? (Whatever the scientist who came back to the Prometheus was meant to be.)

The creator-aliens were ridiculous for reasons that have been discussed already, but just to make clear I found them particularly irritating conceptually for pandering to the theories of Van Daniken. It wasn't an original idea to Prmetheus, it was just taking a stupid real world one and running with it. Basing your sci-fi on that is as bad as making your aliens Wiccans or Druids, or having them find the planet with Tarot cards and ley lines.

If you're not happy with the Twilight comparison, try Crystal Skull, which was based on the exact same conceptl. Crystal Skull wasn't necessarily an inherently awful movie - certainly there are people who thought it was good fun, apparently - but, yeah.

Oh hey, comparison validated.

I meant in terms of story progression, not simply things happening. How much time passed between the 'dog' getting stuck and us actually seeing what was in there? How much time passed before the presence of Weyland on the ship was revealed? Why does no one on the ship seem to care about the scientists left behind? Things happening in a disjointed, disruptive fashion also jarred. A steady succession of things happening does not equal tension or pacing.

They feel like poor copies of the originals, for the most part. I shouldn't have to explain why using squids to represent rape is hardly original either.

This post has been edited by Kegluneq on Jun 21 2012, 08:39 AM