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Welcome to the TENTH MT A&D Draw Off!

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Rules and Information:

What is a draw off? A draw off is where you pit your art against others in a no-holds-barred gladiatoral match to the death! Well... sort of.

It's time to show off everything you've been learning about your arting, that's right! It's time to put your pencil to the test.

Here's how it works:

You will have a particular amount of time to render to specification an image set forth in the draw off description. After the deadline, a voting poll of sorts will exist where people can vote for the image(s) they like the most. The winner gets the choose the theme for the next draw off.

Pretty simple. These kinds of things exist in many other art forums and there's no reason we shouldn't have our own. Believe me when I say: They are plenty fun! Nonetheless, as this forum focuses primarily on learning it is your duty to challenge yourself and try new things. This may be a difficult pose or an elaborate background or simply finishing a drawing. There's a reason why the deadlines give you lots of time to work on this -- it's up to you to use that time.

As if it needed to be said, all imagery must abide by forum rules and regulations.

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Tryst was very intrigued by the traditional media concept as well as suggesting simply that the new draw off involve motion.  But as some of you may know, I am an English Major and that makes me evil—muahahahahahahahahahaha!  Etc… 

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This round: Poetry in Motion!

Deadline: April 18th

Character description: Design a character who embodies a specific poem written by an established poet (a poet who is likely canonized in an academic literary volume—not your best friend) and while it doesn’t matter which poem or poet you choose, your character MUST be in-motion.  The more motion, the better.  This character must also be human, and through character and costume design, you will convey your poem.

Background information: The setting is totally up to you.  It must work into your chosen poem’s aesthetic concepts, however, and it must fit the action/motion of your character.

Special limitations: This must be a fully rendered image in either grayscale or full color.  Your choice of media can be anything EXCEPT digital.  That’s right, no computer assistance outside of extremely basic level’s or scanner color/resolution fixes.  Additionally, you must provide the pertinent excerpt of your poem in a caption box placed somewhere on your piece.  The text, likewise, must NOT be digital. This Draw-Off, you get an EXTRA week, use it! (Challenge yourself) 

Good luck!

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Posting rules:

Do not post Works In Progress in this thread -- you can post them else-where, but not here. You can only post ONE drawing, that's right, you have all this time to work on one drawing, make it count! When you're finished, you may post your drawing in this thread.

And just to be specific: This should be a brand new pic!

(You can post questions or comments in this thread)

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Gandhi
Posted: Mar 28 2007, 08:34 AM
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Ooh, culture, huh. HUH?

Poems in motion
arise at my fingertips
But which should I chose?

Righty-o then.


[Edit]

Oh, try this big database of poets, with click-through links to their poems themselves.

Here are a couple of William Blake (English poet, painter, visionary nutcase 1757-1827) illustrations, just by way of example to show how crazy-mad-cool off-the-wall poetry illustration can be.

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Posted: Mar 28 2007, 09:00 AM
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Some of you might be asking: But Dan, what IS a poet?

While I can't answer your existential nonsense, I can link you to this list of poets on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poets


Here is a list of poets I like/don't like:

English:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Milton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Blake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._S._Elliot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shakespeare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Robinson_%28poet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._B._Yeats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keats

Scottish:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns

Japanese:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsuo_Basho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murasaki_Shikibu
(also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokinshu)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onono_Komachi (one of my favorite)

American:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Whitman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kerouac
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Collins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Pound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langston_Hughes

Spanish/Chicano:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Cervantes
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lorna+dee+cervantes


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If you're having difficulty finding some work by one of these poets, I have works from MOST of them and can email you something, but of course google is your friend.


DOUBLE EDIT:

I should mention that you need to document your caption ala ( Poet's Name, Poem, and then the lines the verse you quoted is from xx-xx)
Like this:
Kiss of the Monkey by Dan, 5-55

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Posted: Mar 28 2007, 10:47 AM
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Nooooo!!! Why Tryst WHY??? just kidding tongue.gif This seems like a real challenge, just what the Draw off where made for. However, to bad I don't have a printer or money to buy one, or art supplies for that matter, so it looks like I'm out.


One question for Tryst. Why did you decide on traditional media?

*edit* Ok Ok Dannthr caught it before I did, I ment scanner. Ok Scanner, and the only person I know personaly with a scanner is my cosin that lives 7 hours away. Not to mention there isn't a Kinkos where I live.

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FYI, a "printer" is not necessary to participate in this draw-off.

A scanner or a digital camera, or a digitalization of film or a photograph is however.

Scanners are quite common, you might even KNOW someone who owns one.

And if you create something really nifty and can't find a scanner, well, KinkosFedEx and copy centers like them do scan documents for a modest fee.

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I too am probably out due to the traditonal media. Good luck to others.

Regards,

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Posted: Mar 28 2007, 01:02 PM
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Wow. Talk about taking a suggestion and running with it!

I'm in, if I can find a sufficiently short and inspirational poem. This is the kind of thing haiku seems like it was just made for...
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Awesome theme!!!!!!!! Thank you Tryst!

Dan Dan Dan... you forgot Robert Frost! How COULD you!?!?! blink.gif It's funny really, I had like 3 ideas jump into my head immediately...which is REALLY rare these days. ol' gray matter is starting to harden a bit.

for those who don't know how to do color without a computer. ..agian ... blink.gif Try colored pencils or water colors. Do a semi rough of your pic and scan it off and print several copies and practice. Heck , try crayola!

Cya on the battle field!

Oh, PS.

Where scanners are concerned. You probably know someone who has access to one at WORK. They are Very common place these days. Most FAX machines also double as a scanner. Start asking NOW so they will be prepared.

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DAMN YOU!!!!!!!


Dan, one question.

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Additionally, you must provide the pertinent excerpt of your poem in a caption box placed somewhere on your piece.  The text, likewise, must NOT be digital.


What the hell???

I know it was English because there are words like "the" and "in", but thats all I could understand with my primitive brain.
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Posted: Mar 28 2007, 01:25 PM
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What don't you understand?

The statement itself or why?

A caption box is a visual rectangle that is often used to contain text.

In this case the text would be a quote from your poem, so that other people know what your visual is about. I suppose if you wanted to integrate the words into the picture, that would be fine as well, in which case a caption box isn't necessary.

Is this what you're asking about?

Please specify.
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QUOTE (Stephen. @ Mar 28 2007, 12:14 PM)
DAMN YOU!!!!!!!


Dan, one question.



What the hell???

I know it was English because there are words like "the" and "in", but thats all I could understand with my primitive brain.

ya know.. like a comic book does. but instead of dialogue, you caption (that means write with you hand(s) or teeth or toes or whatever in this case) the bit of poetry that inspires/ed you.

Personally, I'm going to try to forego the box, but that's not set in stone.

the three poems I'll be drawing from (no pun intended) are: Swinger of Birches, The Road Not Taken, or Mending Walls
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Posted: Mar 28 2007, 03:45 PM
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Ewww... as much as I dislike poetry this is interesting.

Ha ha, I might even be faster with traditional media; we'll see how it goes.
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Aw, come on Con, you can do this. We woves your stuff, I'm sure you can find some way to digitise your work in the next three weeks.

QUOTE (Commander Wolf @ Mar 28 2007, 09:45 PM)
Ha ha, I might even be faster with traditional media; we'll see how it goes.

I sneakily suspect that, with a some practice, you'll do rather well with goache.

I think we all need an ideation session to get this show's juices flowing on the road.
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Posted: Mar 28 2007, 04:29 PM
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curious i am, would the lyrical poetry of well known bands count? (i was watching van wilder 2 yesterday and i thought of this, since in the movie the lyrics of various bands were quoted in a poetry related scene)

i am prepared with a poem in the likely event that song lyrics will not be accepted.



i think i'll take a stab at this.
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bah I hate it, though a task is a task! I'll accept the challenge and brave it! Aha look at me acting like some kind of warrior! Either way, bring it on...
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Poetry:
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1 a : metrical writing : VERSE b : the productions of a poet : POEMS
2 : writing that formulates a concentrated imaginative awareness of experience in language chosen and arranged to create a specific emotional response through meaning, sound, and rhythm
3 a : something likened to poetry especially in beauty of expression b : poetic quality or aspect <the poetry of dance> 


Yes song lyrics are considered poetry, but 97%** of popular music is total crap.


However, with this definition (2) in mind, it may be important to consider your visual imagery as a TRANSLATION of the poem--attempting to do with visual art what the original poet did with words.


**Based on a partial survey of a single person.

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cripes, what a topic. i have a cool idea, but like so many cool ideas it will probably turn out to be a case of my eyes being hungrier than my mouth (or whatever that weird expression is), or in more applicable terms, my head being more capable of drawing something awesome than my hand haha. especially when that hand is trying to figure out coloured pencils. i think i have a second hand set from when i was like 14 somewhere haha.

way to go tryst and dannthr! together you will stretch us all!
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Yes song lyrics are considered poetry, but 97%** of popular music is total crap.


i like your answer. good thing for me, i don't listen to popular music, haha
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Ah, brilliant Ch3353N1nj4. A good song lyric...now I may consider doing this.
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QUOTE (Gandhi @ Mar 28 2007, 02:12 PM)
I think we all need an ideation session to get this show's juices flowing on the road.

What's that I hear? Party at Gandhi's? Awright!

My dad has a pretty hefty collection of old chinese poetry, I think I'm gonna try to pull something out of there...
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QUOTE (Gandhi @ Mar 28 2007, 04:12 PM)


I think we all need an ideation session to get this show's juices flowing on the road.

heheh. Mixed metaphors hello!

Anyway, 'ideation'? Is that what would in other times and places have been known as 'brainstorming'?

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All this newfangled Newspeak, I tells ya, it makes an oul' leddy's head like mine go round and round...

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I'm going to see if I can do something for this one...
but my time and mood are really changing these school days.
I think there isn't enough liquor or any vollatile liquid to burn everything I wish to...

I hope you like Borges
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The text, likewise, must NOT be digital.


I don't get this rule at all; calligraphy and drawing are two totally different beasts - I don't see why we should lump them together all of a sudden. I can see it already:
"I was going to pick his, except his handwriting is kind of messy; it detracts from the drawing."
"Her drawing wasn't the best, but the way she put her lettering down so nicely really caught my eye!"
I hope this one doesn't turn into a handwriting contest. sleep.gif
I have a sneaking suspicion that it may though. X3
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jimthegreat- i don't know that i agree with that. i mean for one thing, your lettering is going to be part of the presentation of your piece as a whole, and so people should be able to include that in their appraisal. the draw off is a lot like (i imagine) being given a design brief - the terms are what they are, and you do your absolute best within them.

for another thing, i don't have the world's neatest handwriting at all, but seriously, if you take enough time on your lettering, anyone can make it look good. do all those things like drawing really light pencil lines and then erasing them to make sure the text is straight, or have a piece of lined paper underneath your picture and use the lines you see through as reference. and you can just reference fonts as well - instead of just doing your own handwriting, which yeh might not be too crash hot, pick a font you like and copy the letter shapes.

personally i think the only way the text will make a massive difference to someone's voting decision is if it's really bad and illegible. so the most important thing is to take the time, go slow and make it neat enough that people won't wonder what language you're writing in :3
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I only want people to do digital stuff to fix the brightness/contrast levels if needed or to crop away non-picture bits.

For example, if you have to photograph your picture, you might need to adjust the levels and crop away the space around the picture just so that it's presentible.

I don't want people to pull out the paintbrush or the text tool or the box and text tool for any reason. Just don't touch it.

I'm not asking you to wip out your Ames Lettering Guide:
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