Power By Perpetual Motion.

ok, you know those perpetual motion little ball back and forth things? well imagine this:

a hug set of 2 balls, one made of fuzz, the other of sttel. the fuzzy one will brush by the steel one creating static electricity. and bc its said the ball things can keep moving forever, it is pretty practical right? i know youd need more than one btw.

Kick the person who said that. The balls won't move forever. Friction will transfer their kinetic energy into thermal energy and a very tiny bit of electrical energy.

I don't even know what you mean by "back and forth things" (pendulums?), but I have a feeling my above answer will apply anyway.

Someone never heard of entropy.

Ok, time to list the reasons why it won't work:

1. Resistance from the bearings will make the pendulums wear down. You can't make a frictionless bearing without magnetic or gravitic repulsion. Magnetics won't work because it's moving, and will take power anyway. And gravitics just plain haven't been invented yet.

2. The static electricity will cause the pendulums to slow. Electrons are not massless particles, and those are transferred by transferring charge.

3. Static electricity is extremely useless. Doesen't power things, because it's only a static charge. Very low current, no movey.

4. Steel doesen't create static. Two insulators rubbing against each other do, steel merely attracts it.
(Like plastic mailbags for example. When working with them, I had to earth myself every few seconds to avoid building up painful amounts of charge. Even now, I have a slight phobia of touching metal railings with lumps over the joins because my mind associate them with pain.)

5. Pendulums don't move forever. Pendulum clocks need rewinding, even sodding great big ones. Pendulums merely swing at a steady rate when attatched to a coiled spring.

Maybe you can come up with ideas for power generation after studying physics for a while. I know damn well that pendulums, static charges, and the laws of thermodynamics are GCSE-level subjects. Think high-school level education.

They succeeded in making perpetual motion? Why wasn't I informed?

Because they don't want you to know!

Seriously, build it, patent it and sell it, if you can. Of course the patent office will require a demonstration, but I'm certain you wouldn't be the first to try. At least your design is smaller than a breadbox, I'm sure they will appreciate that.

How can you demonstrate to the patent office that it will actually work perpetually? Oh, wait... they just rubber stamp things now...

Even if you could build something that will move forever, for large values of forever, the concensus seems to be that such a machine would necessarily have no net energy output.

If there is any energy output from a perpetual machine (lets just pretend that it's possible), it wouldn't be perpetual anymore, would it? All energy within the perpetual motion system must remain within the system for it to continue forever. If you're recieving any energy output from it, then it's going to stop once the energy is exhausted.

Why not stick with plain old batteries?

Lisa, in this house, we obey the laws of physics!

can't have perpetual motion with out put cause that would mean you created energy, this is impossible cause it breakes "conservation of matter" <matter=energy>

wait until you have actualy finished freshmen and sophmore physics, or google your topic

**Update**
don't bother posting anymore, crackporn has just knocked her off for 3 days
<she posted a topic titled "who here is an american?" in MTC>


This post has been edited by r0/\/1/\/ on Jul 19 2005, 09:33 PM