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> Ninja Vs. Pirate, How did it start?
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 03:43 PM
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While surfing around I frequently bump into references to the apparent age old hostility between these two faction. (recently in Nekobox and on the EQ2 forums)

What I'd like to know is - how/where did this discussion start? And less importantly - why has it become such a popular topic?


P.S. This is NOT a thread about whether Ninjas or Pirates are superior - so please stay on topic smile.gif
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 03:51 PM
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I always assumed it started here on the talk like a pirate day before last. Some fucker made a post in the talk like a pirate thread that ninjas were better than pirates and it sort of went from there.

I could be wrong, since it has cropped up online in many other place besides these forums, but I'd never seen it before, and MT is a kind of massive forum.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 04:08 PM
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Doesn't matter. The pirates of the world will shortly join together and exterminate all of the pesky ninja scum. [insert evil laugh here]
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 04:10 PM
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 04:12 PM
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Actually the first place I ever saw this was on a bumper sticker on a car that simply read "Ninjas Vs. Pirates" So it has been around for a long time. Maybe I'll do some research and try to find its origins, but I have a feeling it will be near impossible. Oh well, I guess all we can do is choose a side...
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  Posted: Apr 27 2005, 04:13 PM
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I think the Pirates vs Ninjas thing has been around longer than the original Talk Like A Pirate Day thread on MT, because I know it has been on the GameDev.net forums, another very large online community, for a very long time as well.

I don't think it's really possible to know "who started it", because it's something that any geeky person would contemplate. It's like Nero vs Hitler or Gandhi vs Jesus.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 04:58 PM
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This conflict has been around much longer than that thread. Although I do not know its technical origins I do believe some of it started here while other parts started here. I could be wrong though. I never could pick a side in this conflict. Being a Japanophile I would normally choose that sneaky, sneaky ninja. However, due to my wearing a bandanna and my apparent likeness to Johnny Depp my friends have dubbed me a pirate.


Yarr.

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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:11 PM
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Both are iconic and eccentric cultural entities that have been boiled down to pure caricature. It is inevitable that the two would vie for dominance in the minds of a chic-addled populace. However, I can only wonder as to why robots and vikings have not come to the fore in this timeless struggle.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:16 PM
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It's been around for ages as I've seen it back on my dial up days many many years ago. It's like asking, "Who first thought of putting applesauce on porksteaks." Nobody knows, and anyone would claim it if they thought of it first in their area.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Yossarian @ Apr 27 2005, 05:11 PM)
vikings

The vikings were pirates.
And on a site pimp note:
There is no competition anymore, the pirates won.

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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:19 PM
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Ahhhhh, the timeless debate.

Pirate for me, allthough if you want to put Viking up there i'll be forced to go with that.



My belife is that God himself created this argument as a way to keep people who would argue about it inside on the internet, instead of on the streets scaring cats.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:22 PM
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Neither truly wins, because Ninja Pirates are infinitely better.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Apr 27 2005, 11:16 PM)
The vikings where pirates.

...'Were,' you mean? Vikings were similar to pirates in certain respects, but are clearly of a different era altogether. You can't lump the two together.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:27 PM
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:28 PM
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except Pirates have zero stealth. So that detracts from the being that is Ninja. ninja for me.

And as for popularity, we had a Pirate/Ninja day earlier this school year. Sorry to say the Pirates came in full. ;_; The ninjas didn't want to be seen in daylight. A couple of cool geeks got it going here.


Edito:

Vikings didn't have cannons~

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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (SporkOfTruth @ Apr 27 2005, 05:22 PM)
Neither truly wins, because Ninja Pirates are infinitely better.

What about Robot Jedi Aragon Vampire Farmer Pirates?

"'Were,' you mean?"
Fixed.
A pirate is a deffinition of a job, there are still pirates today, if they did them same thing then they where pirates of old, still pirates though.

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QUOTE (Cosmo-san @ Apr 27 2005, 05:28 PM)


Vikings didn't have cannons~

But they did have axes, and horned helmets (well, technicaly not, but still.....)

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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (SporkOfTruth @ Apr 27 2005, 05:22 PM)
Neither truly wins, because Ninja Pirates are infinitely better.

So that's what I am.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:36 PM
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Pirates are obviously superior to ninjas.

After all... who ever heard of "Talk Like a Ninja" day? tongue.gif
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (MrBatman @ Apr 27 2005, 05:36 PM)
After all... who ever heard of "Talk Like a Ninja" day? tongue.gif

No one, becuase those days are talked about /really/ quietly, and in code.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE (MrBatman @ Apr 27 2005, 05:36 PM)
Pirates are obviously superior to ninjas.

After all... who ever heard of "Talk Like a Ninja" day? tongue.gif

And who would want to?
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:47 PM
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The vikings did conquer large portions of medieval England. That has to count for something.
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (zer0wolf @ Apr 27 2005, 06:13 PM)
I don't think it's really possible to know "who started it", because it's something that any geeky person would contemplate. It's like Nero vs Hitler or Gandhi vs Jesus.

Or Catholic Nuns vs. Tibetan Monks

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Match-ups were everyone wins, especially the spectators! \o/
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:51 PM
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I can talk ninjanatsD.gif like a ninjanatsD.gif ninja. You just have ninjanatsD.gif to insert ninjanatsD.gif ninjas every ninjanatsD.gif few ninjanatsD.gif words.

Just to throw in my two cents, GO DRAGONS!!
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Posted: Apr 27 2005, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (stageninja @ Apr 27 2005, 11:49 PM)
Or Catholic Nuns vs. Tibetan Monks

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Match-ups were everyone wins, especially the spectators! \o/

How about Zulus vs. Apache Indians? Huzzah for cultural exploitation!
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