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> Gone to Hell in a hand basket, Gone to Hell in a hand basket
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 04:39 PM
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Once apon a midnight weak and weary I found my way to the epic Megatokyo, that was long ago and it was _funny_ it had a healthy amount of drama too boot. Back in the day something would be acomplished in an episode or two. Now a days Dragon Ball Z moves faster, and lets face it, THAT is a scarry thought. Piro and Nanasawa have been having a the same convorsation for over a freaking month! I dont know when megatokyo stoped being funny and became a LAME Drama, but it has. I am not knocking it because it has drama in it, I am Knocking it because thats ALL IT IS NOW!
Many of my friends have stoped reading for this reason, I am giving megatokyo one more month if nothing good happens to MT, I too will stop reading the peice of trash it has become.
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 04:45 PM
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A Special Agent is allowed access to large amounts of intelligence gathering methods.

However, his best bet is definitely listening.

Snow walks up to the little prick that just insulted the great comic that is MT.

Unnoticed by the little troll, snow pulls two MP5 PDW's from his armor and promptly holds them to the trolls back.

<ooc> sorry, had to have a little fun. now, if i may - im going to rant <ooc>

Not funny? are you on crack son?

its funny as hell when a 20 story drunk turtle *punts* a mecha across a city

Its also very humorous when said turtle belches on a robot girl who proceeds to throw said turtle into a building, and a sniper with a BIG FUCKING GUN.

its also funny when largo insults ping. calling her momma a sega saturn...

And did i mention the fact that 'after that mega belch blast - theres no way that mecha is getting back up'

And the subtle humor in the past few strips with 'bag man ed'

and that expressionless smile....

Damn - you must have a shitty sense of humor my friend.

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Snow jams his guns harder into the troll's back as he speaks, then wispers in his ear.

"dont make me kill you and make Nightwalker turn you into a R.A.V.E.R
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haha. im stupid. oh well
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 04:45 PM
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... *sigh*
I thought about trying to defend this guy, or perhaps shield him from the flames to come, but that would be pointless. My advice to you s3x is to Run. Run VERY fast. Run FAR away.

I think I might also be the kindest person that will post on this thread...
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 04:45 PM
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If you're bitchy about the plot taking too long, just buy Megatokyo Book 1 and read through it. It will seem to go by so quickly. Also, you have to remember that this is a novel. It will take time to develop.

Case in point: Right now, my screenplay has a lot of dialogue and is going to be in the ballpark of 3-3.5 hours long. But I need every minute to tell the story.

I think Megatokyo is coming along just fine.


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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 04:48 PM
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Meh. Your loss. I'm curious as to why you think anyone here cares what you think about it, though?
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 04:51 PM
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feel free to leave at any point.

The door is that way. --->

Whining about the plot, how long it takes, etc is just going to get you flamed. Speaking for myself, I *like* this pace. It gives us a chance to speculate and get to know the characters. If you want fast-paced action with no plot, go rent a porn video or something.

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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 05:01 PM
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*H3llbl4d3 sighs heavily and shakes his head in disgust. He takes a drink from his flask of wine, hoping -snow- would just pull the trigger*

MT is still funny and -snow- already gave some examples of humour. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and don't post crap like this. If you don't like the story don't make a thread complaining about it.
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 05:31 PM
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*H3llbl4d3 sighs heavily and shakes his head in disgust. He takes a drink from his flask of wine, hoping -snow- would just pull the trigger*


Heh. You don't even have to wait for -snow-.

*raises sniper rifle and shoots the a55h0l3*

Body count: 8
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 05:37 PM
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*nods in approval*

That works too
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 05:38 PM
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*cough* Snow, just shoot. This little nekomancer does not like that person's name...or the fact that he flamed. <(_ _)> brain bust...
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 06:02 PM
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You, sir s3x, are an idiot.

It's Manga--it progresses slowly. That is what makes it vastly superior to DBZ and whatnot. It allows you to get to know the characters, and now that it's being published Fred can't afford to do a bunch of one-shots. This is serious manga, not something like Penny Arcade. It has its funny and serious moments, but the humor is more subtle now. Just take a few moments to think about the plot. Piro is screwed. Largo got a PS2 accessory to beat up a giant, drunken turtle. Said PS2 accessory looks like a 14-year-old girl.

Yeah, that's one boring Manga for ya.

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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 06:04 PM
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You, sir s3x, are an idiot.


Don't even dignify him by calling him "sir."
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 08:16 PM
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It was implied sarcasm. He is the lowest scum of forum barrel.

Well, more like if the forum scum had it's own barrel with a bottom that dripped into an ocean of diseased rats that then leapt into a rank sewer........
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 08:28 PM
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*initiatives run-on sentence game*

...that runs with the feces of said rats...
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 09:11 PM
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Ever since it has become more of a DRAMA, I've liked it a lot, I'm more interested in story than humor, humor is just like an optional part, but the story is great. I think the rate its going at is FAST. 3 comics a week is a lot! Be thankful its not once a week and its also free! And it has a great story too!

I think this s3x guy came here to stir up trouble on purpose.
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 09:18 PM
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I think this s3x guy came here to stir up trouble on purpose.


No kidding. We call them "trolls".
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 09:49 PM
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Son!! you know not the art that is story telling!! back to the shadows where you belong foul nay-sayer of Megatokyo before my temper lets loose and i smite thee with the power of a thousand narclaptic pandas!!!{too much b33r excuse the out burst}
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"Never judge a man untill you walked a mile in his shoes. that way when he finds out you took his shoes your a mile away and he's bare-foot"


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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 10:04 PM
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In reply to:

Originally posted by Fred (Piro)
Secondly, please, don't treat me like a sacred cow. Don't call me 'Mr Gallagher' - my name is fred, or 'Piro' if you like. I'm just a flawed person who does something that people like, and have formed communities around. I would like people to feel that they can give honest criticisms about things, and i don't want people jumping all over others who make such complaints or criticisms.




People, give it a rest. The guy is entitled to his own opinion. It's his own loss if he can't appreciate it. Yeah, we didn't need or want to know his thoughts, but there is no reason to keep flaming him. It simply feeds his trollish ego. Just ignore him.
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 10:36 PM
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A REAL GOOD STORY DONīT ARE FUNNY ALL THE TIME, A GOOD STORY HAVE A LITTLE OF EVERYTHING FOR MORE GREAT, FUN, LOVE, ACTION, MISTERY,ZOMBIES AND MUCH MORE ARE MT.
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 10:48 PM
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Aww, geez. We've had far too many of these threads lately. s3x, I'm not going to go into it with you. Just go read the thread The Rise and Fall of MegaTokyo

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Two drinks when someone posts that the comic isn't funny anymore, or the story is too slow, or is otherwise going downhill.
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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 11:31 PM
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'too many of these threads lately'

(sigh)

its a sign that i really am fucking up by the numbers. I appologize for that. i just wish there was a way i could make readers happy. kinda sad, since my livelhood depends on making this work.

but whatever, if it flops, i'll go back to architecture.

oh, and i responded to this and generally most of the flames recently in that rise and fall bullshit stuff on the general forums. (Draegos and crew should feel relieved that there aren't any threats to stop doing MT on account of the bad vibes i've been getting lately. i did promise the supportive fans that i wouldnt do that anymore, and i am sticking to that.)

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Posted: Mar 1 2003, 11:43 PM
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hey s3x this is a FREE webcomic that is all on the expenses of fred/piro. if you think the story needs to move faster don't read any longer. after all there are alot of us who come to MT daily and one less person would help the server out. true the story hase become more like a drama, but that's almost always been a little bit of the case in the 'piro scenes' as i've noticed. but piro wasn't the humor character largo is. his scenes are there to take something that would never been seen in such a light and turn it into a brawl-for-it-all or a chance to get drunk, ect. fred/piro's been doing the best he can. he has a new project he has to make sure is done on time every month. and some time in the future him and sarah are going to have to find a time to get married and of course they'll have a honeymoon and while they're away mt will be one of three things. one a week of dom's stick figures, which are entertaining at times, two a week of dead piro days, or three a they'll have another contest to see which fans will be guest artist. the latter would be a nightmare for the mt crew now. well i think i've rambled enough.
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Posted: Mar 2 2003, 12:04 AM
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nope, youre just doing so good youre drawing in the n00bs by the numbers.

Piro, you realize the entire reason all the people are new to the story forum is that they HAVE to post about the awesome comic.

So youre doing a great job - lurkers are coming out in droves and making stupid first posts.

its a good sign for MT (maybe a bad sign for my temper tho )

Seriously, MT has improved incredibly over chapter three.

j00 r0x!
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Posted: Mar 2 2003, 12:15 AM
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although i still love MT, i do have to agree that after largo stopped writing some of the script, it has gotten less funny...

i understand that fred just wanted to break out of the joke a day format, but i believe that that is how online comics should be. He might as well change the name to online novel... Thats why i havent really checked the site much and have gone to just buying the books as they are going to come out
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its a sign that i really am fucking up by the numbers. I appologize for that. i just wish there was a way i could make readers happy.




Hey, I have to disagree. I think you're doing a bang up job; both with the quality of the storyline and the quality of the art. The constant and ever increasing influx of new registered members on this board indicates you're attracting a lot of new readers. The fact that you completely sold out an 11,000 copy printing of the trade paperback and still have people clammering for it says that MT is still damn popular. I guarentee you, I would not spend as much time on the boards of another comic, nor, whatever you opinion of poetry and fan fiction, ever been more inspired by a single source.

I think the majority of these threads are disgruntled adolescent gamers who are losing interest because there has been less emphasis on the gaming and humor and more on the character interactions and plot. The comic has matured as it has gone on, but not all of the audience has matured with it. Don't worry about losing the more immature members of the gaming crowd; they still have Penny Arcade. You're going to make up for it by continuing to draw more people who appreciate moving stories with realistic, interesting characters told in a format besides pure text; Megatokyo is as good as any manga or anime I've ever read or seen, in my opinion.

The only valid arguement that I've seen saying that MT has lost anything was one presented in the Rise and Fall thread on Central; that perhaps something has been lost because of the loss of spontaneity. This is possible; that the chaos exhibited in the early threads is what attracted some of your more mature readers, and the lack of that recently is driving them away. Again, I still think your new readership will make up for that. But if it really bothers you, I think you could work a little to gain some of that spontaneity back, too. The following is not to be construed as one of the "Hey, you should do this" posts that set off the last big whatever-you-wanna-call-it, but simply my thoughts on the subject of responding to the complaints; you are pretty much asking for this by saying "its a sign that i really am fucking up by the numbers." So don't complain about someone telling you what to do.

For obvious reasons, I don't know exactly how your schedule has changed since you started working on this full time. I'm inclined to think that you've been putting even more time into making the art look nice, because it really has been awe inspiring recently. We know you've also been working on Warmth, which has also been taking up a lot of your time. So you still have a lot on your plate. Even so, however, I think it might help if we could start seeing more rants again. Not everyone reads them, but a lot of us do, and I've noticed that recently they've been very focused on specific topics. You've likely been aiming for that, since you always used to apologize about your ramblings in the older rants. However, I liked the rambling. It provided a much better and more interesting glimpse into your life and your thoughts than your focused ones. I've been on of the most vocal supporters of leaving the MT staff to their private lives recently, but when it comes right down to it, I'm as curious as anyone else. We like getting to see your thoughts. I think that if you started trying to get a rant out with every or almost every strip, you could improve this. Ranting more often would force you to come up with more stuff to write about, which would lead you to talk about whatever is on the top of your mind, the way you seemed to in the early rants. I think a lot of people would appreciate that.

Another thing that I might suggest is that you do more one shot episodes. I think probably my three favorite individual strips are [188] halloween special - daydream before, [318] Largo Cart Racing, and [220] Nazi Nani MT: Of Trolls and Flames. All three are complete breaks from the regular story line, filled with complete goofiness. I know Rodney had a hand in that last one, and he probably had a hand in the Halloween special, too, but Largo Kart Racing was completely yours, so you certainly are capable of giving us random insanity on your own. As much as I love the continuing story and eagarly look forward too each new strip to see what happens, I really enjoy the random filler strips when you have them, and I think that you could provide us with high quality OSEs more often. I'm really looking forward to Dom's Megatokyo Special 1; it'll be something new and different. And I think the lack of something different is what the guy on Central was complaining about the most.

At anyrate, that's my two cents. I really don't care if you pay attention or not; it's your comic, and I've been pretty darn happy with it up until now. But if you're really worried about these people complaining that MT is starting to suck or not be funny or whatever, and about MT flopping (a laughable idea) because of these people, then my best ideas are above. I really don't think you need to worry.

*evil grin* See you at Sakuracon.

Edit: There I go, writing essays again. Boy, if there was a class on this comic I could pass with flying colors.
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