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Posted by: Phaedrus Jul 29 2001, 04:12 PM
Quiet interlude -
Kimiko wearing fuku.
I can die in peace.

Posted by: badass_moogle Jul 29 2001, 05:05 PM
Is "fuku" Japanese for uniform?
And why are there all these suffixes for Japanese names? (Piro-san, Largo-kun, etc etc) what do they mean?

Anyway, Kimiko........(tongue drops to floor, eyeballs wiiiiiiide open) *sighs deeply, staring at that pic for a long time)


Posted by: Vaevictis Jul 29 2001, 05:22 PM
I'm probably gonna mess this all up, so someone correct me if I'm wrong:

san - Honorific title, equivalent of calling someone Mr. Miss, Mrs. or Ms. The most commonly used suffix, esp. when you have never met the person you are addressing.

sama - More honorific than san, used to show great respect, or to address an authority figure, could be equated to "master"

dono - very polite, not used much in conversation today. Can be heard used in the anime series "Rurouni Kenshin", since this takes place over a century ago.

kun - casual, usually used between male friends

chan - very informal, usually used when talking to young children, mostly girls. Also can be used to demean older boys happy.gif
"Yahiko-chan!"
"Stop calling me CHAN!!!"

I think there are some others, but I don't hear them used very often. Some are only used in certain regions of Japan, or only in very specific circumstances. Also, in casual conversation people sometimes leave out suffixes altogether. From what I've seen, this is only between very close friends. If you want more information, a search on the web can be very fruitful.

[ July 29, 2001: Message edited by: Vaevictis ]


Posted by: Syao-chan Jul 29 2001, 06:42 PM
This thread, a haiku
Thou can't speak normally here
Got it compadre? ^_~

Posted by: Phaedrus Jul 29 2001, 07:25 PM
More gentle language
I would use, but yes, kind guests -
only haiku, please.

***

Piro, student-dressed,
follows startled Kimiko.
Does she sense his love?


Posted by: Simulacrum Jul 29 2001, 07:57 PM
Ah, Pirogoethe!
Full render I'd love to see!
Pirogoethe! Yes!

(Note: I'm to assume,
Pirogoethe is pronounced,
Peee - row - ger - te, right?

Cause, Mister Goethe...
The German dude's name is said,
Ger - te.. am i right?)

EDIT: I fixed...
Or did I? A bad haiku.
But which? You won't know.

[ July 29, 2001: Message edited by: Simulacrum ]


Posted by: Vaevictis Jul 29 2001, 08:20 PM
Ah, gomennasai
I should have known not to use
normal language here.

This day forth I pledge
Never to do so again
Forgive and forget?


Posted by: badass_moogle Jul 29 2001, 09:13 PM
Thank you, Vaevictis
My apologies as well
to Phaedrus, sorry.

Haiku, I shall use
When said topic calls for it
I will remember.


Posted by: Echo Jul 29 2001, 11:54 PM
Ripples in the pond:
Briefcase, fuku... near-strangers,
circles intersect.

Posted by: Phaedrus Jul 30 2001, 04:24 AM
Prodigal posters,
all is forgiven with such
well-crafted verses.

Will you stay and count
syllables with us? Soon now,
a new strip is due.

****

Echo, your poem
was sublime, your imagery
made me catch my breath.

The geometry
of love: Piro and soul mate
as venn diagrams.

We can but hope that
their long-sought intersection
is not the null set.


Posted by: Zagyg Jul 30 2001, 07:16 AM
L33t cats say 'm30w.'
Oh, is it 'megane-ko,'
not 'mega-neko?'

Seraphim's glasses
Very cute, but the new shirt
Shows her true nature

'Fuku' just means 'clothes'
Most fans mean 'sailor fuku':
Classic uniform.


Posted by: Phaedrus Jul 30 2001, 08:26 AM
Zag, you speak the truth:
"fuku" is "clothes". Guidance please -
syllable count for:

[!haiku]
seifuku
seeraa fuku
[/!haiku]

Japanese vowels
aren't like English or Chinese;
ignorance mutes me.


Posted by: smurd Jul 30 2001, 11:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Phaedrus:
Quiet interlude -
Kimiko wearing fuku.
I can die in peace.

quote:
Originally posted by Echo:
Ripples in the pond:
Briefcase, fuku... near-strangers,
circles intersect.

I can't see my way
to do better than these two:
haiku no shintai

bows in acknowledgement of honourable defeat


Posted by: smurd Jul 30 2001, 11:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Phaedrus:
Zag, you speak the truth:
"fuku" is "clothes". Guidance please -
syllable count for:

[!haiku]
seifuku
seeraa fuku
[/!haiku]

Japanese vowels
aren't like English or Chinese;
ignorance mutes me.


[!haiku]Easy in the case of Nihongo. There are no diphthongs. So:
se - i - fu - ku

1. There's a mnemonic for all the Japanese phonemes: "ah we soon get old" (a i u e o). Just add consonants (ka ki ku ke ko, ta chi tsu te to, sa shi su se so, na ni nu ne no). All are one beat.

2. The compound-consonant / vowel combinations (cha chu cho, kya kyu kyo, nya nyu nyo, etc.) are still one beat.

3. This one's tricky: Long vowels are counted as two beats, not one. Thus "Tokyo" and "Kyoto" are each three beats, but not for the reasons Westerners might think. In the former, the "to" sound has a long "o" and thus has two beats; the "o" in the latter is also long and so "kyo" is a double beat. Thus not "to - ki - yo" and "ki - yo - to" but "to(held) - kyo" and "kyo(held) - to".

4. Do you know about mori?
[/!haiku]

[ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: smurd ]


Posted by: smurd Jul 30 2001, 12:00 PM
clicked the wrong button... gomen, it's hard to be didactic and subterfugely all at once.

[ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: smurd ]


Posted by: Phaedrus Jul 30 2001, 12:14 PM
Arigato beaucoup
smurd-sensei! (Did I count
that one correctly?)

***

Family duty
fulfilled, I return to find
a trip for work waits.

I now travel to
converse, confer and hobnob
with brother wizards.

This week, my access
is spotty at best. I will
visit when I can.


Posted by: SilverLuz Jul 30 2001, 12:31 PM
In Nihongo, true
As wise smurd-san has told us
There are no dipthongs

But sometimes, in a
Casual conversation
Speech may be sloppy

And one syllable,
All combined, may reach the ear
Where two should have been.

Listen carefully
And you may notice this truth
An example, 'Hai!'

As for the comic
My heart yearns, how I would love
to play *that* game.

SilverLuz

Never before now
Have I joined in haiku
My humble greetings


Posted by: lar Jul 30 2001, 01:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by SilverLuz:
Never before now
Have I joined in haiku
My humble greetings

Well spoke, SilverLuz!
Welcome! Your first post gives hints
of future beauty.


Posted by: smurd Jul 30 2001, 02:37 PM
"Don't fear the haiku"...
sounds like a song parody
on Blue Öyster Cult!

[song_parody_excerpt]
The Reaper don't fear the haiku, nor do the wind, the sun, and the rain... (you can be like we are)
Come on newbie... (don't fear the haiku)
Newbie take your pen... (don't fear the haiku)
You'll be a poet... (don't fear the haiku)
And we won't even laugh...

[/song_parody_excerpt]

All kidding aside:
take up thy pen, and prepare
to stretch those brain cells.

[ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: smurd ]


Posted by: Traks Jul 30 2001, 07:36 PM
Don't fear the reaper...
I need more cowbell, baby!
SNL kicks ass.

Foolish me. I did
not realize that girl
was Kimiko-chan.

I wouldn't have thought
it was her. In the future,
I will know better.

Largo teaching and
fighting evil. A soulful
shout at the devil.

[ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: Traks ]


Posted by: Vaevictis Jul 30 2001, 08:58 PM
Thank you everyone
For your warm welcomes and praise
I am much obliged

***

Kimiko, fuku
Words cannot truly express
The joy I feel now.

Piro seems nonplussed
Adorable Kimiko
Seems to need some help

***

I grieve for myself
That I will not have the chance
To meet Piro, *sigh*

For I can't go to
This meeting of Otaku
Known as "Otakon"

[!haiku]
Me: I wanna go to Otakon! Wahhhhh!
Mother: No.
Me: I'll buy the tickets!
Mother: No.
Me: I hate you.
Mother: I know.
[/!haiku]


Posted by: Echo Jul 30 2001, 10:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by smurd:
I can't see my way
to do better than these two:
haiku no shintai


Coming from you, Smurd,
with your many fine entries,
most high praise indeed!

Yet, I am sorry
to see I misunderstood
the use of fuku.

[ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: Echo ]


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